Whelp..... progress? Hellcat engine to cease production after 2023 model.

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The Lithium Metal battery supposedly is now possible and just was made possible recently. It should significantly extend battery life. I know Hydrogen cell technology is actually useable with functional in cars with regenerative braking. They are currently Hybrid with some batteries for storage and hard acceleration. They actually use concentrated Hydrogen and fill in 5 minutes. Add infrastructure, put pumps at the gas station. Hydrogen and EV's should slowly be added, not rip off the bandaid and hope we don't bleed to death. Honestly filling with straight water in Canadian Winters sound like a nightmare anyways. Just trying to keep water from freezing in a cement mixer sucked. You basically have to put in the water near boiling and insulate everything. As said, current technology can't pull enough energy out of straight water instantly and may never be possible.

The problem with hydrogen is producing the hydrogen. There's a stink in Japan right now because Toyota is pushing that, and the idea is to produce the hydrogen from COAL of all things. And it's energy-intensive to produce. Apparently Japan is working with Australia to get the supply of coal. Japan is also building new coal-fired power plants as we speak.
 

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The problem with hydrogen is producing the hydrogen. There's a stink in Japan right now because Toyota is pushing that, and the idea is to produce the hydrogen from COAL of all things. And it's energy-intensive to produce. Apparently Japan is working with Australia to get the supply of coal. Japan is also building new coal-fired power plants as we speak.

It's good to see politics are hosed in other parts of the world.
 
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This World is ****ed, is it even worth saving? Not talking about the environment either. The whole coal to produce Electricity and Hydrogen is insane. Hell, Nuclear almost makes more sense.
 
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The problem with hydrogen is producing the hydrogen. There's a stink in Japan right now because Toyota is pushing that, and the idea is to produce the hydrogen from COAL of all things. And it's energy-intensive to produce. Apparently Japan is working with Australia to get the supply of coal. Japan is also building new coal-fired power plants as we speak.
Almost makes sense ehh, another nuclear disaster or two in a country that small will triple the population density.

Hindsight being 20/20, the nuclear thing doesn’t look as good as it once did to them I’ll bet. Nuclear is definitely the best for electricity generation until it isn’t. After that happened all I could think of is what a similar storm would do to Cali???
 
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The problem with hydrogen is producing the hydrogen. There's a stink in Japan right now because Toyota is pushing that, and the idea is to produce the hydrogen from COAL of all things. And it's energy-intensive to produce. Apparently Japan is working with Australia to get the supply of coal. Japan is also building new coal-fired power plants as we speak.
Another issue is that hydrogen can only be safely compressed so much. To equal the amount of energy in a normal size gas tank a hydrogen tank would have to be the size of a whole car.

Almost makes sense ehh, another nuclear disaster or two in a country that small will triple the population density.

Hindsight being 20/20, the nuclear thing doesn’t look as good as it once did to them I’ll bet. Nuclear is definitely the best for electricity generation until it isn’t. After that happened all I could think of is what a similar storm would do to Cali???
The Fukushima plant was using really cheap and outdated reactors from GE that had known design flaws.
 
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Another issue is that hydrogen can only be safely compressed so much. To equal the amount of energy in a normal size gas tank a hydrogen tank would have to be the size of a whole car.


The Fukushima plant was using really cheap and outdated reactors from GE that had known design flaws.

Which wouldn't have been a factor if the basement hadn't flooded.
 

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Which wouldn't have been a factor if the basement hadn't flooded.

Lots of different fractions deserve blame in that case. GE should not have been selling crappy reactors nor should Japan have bought them and install them poorly, just a cluster screw.

Funny the topic has moved on to reactors, where will it go next?
 
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Lots of different fractions deserve blame in that case. GE should not have been selling crappy reactors nor should Japan have bought them and install them poorly, just a cluster screw.

Funny the topic has moved on to reactors, where will it go next?

In a power loss scenario, how would have superior reactors saved the day?
 

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Lots of different fractions deserve blame in that case. GE should not have been selling crappy reactors nor should Japan have bought them and install them poorly, just a cluster screw.

Funny the topic has moved on to reactors, where will it go next?

In a power loss scenario, how would have superior reactors saved the day?
 

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Funny thing about designs and modern engineering... testing in design phases is increasingly being done by simulations instead of building full-scale working units.

It's a great idea until it isn't. Flawed data in leads to flawed data out. Let's not pretend we perfectly know how everything in the universe interacts, it's why 'new' discoveries are constantly being made. You could leave some unknown or thought insignificant thing out and all of a sudden what worked one way in simulation does something.... somehow different in real life.

Kinda how old cars keep running somewhat broken and falling apart, and new junk sits bricked until you fix piddling crap. The newer, the more modern... the more to break and go wrong.
 
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