Why swap to a hub assembly...?

[pontiacgp]

one of the problems with the camaro spindles is that they make bad geometry even worse. at least with the blazer spindles you can still get the SC&C stage 2 kit. plus no mods necessary for a pretty good brake upgrade. and IIRC the kore3 kit to upgrade to corvette drinks doesn't require cutting ears off.

I disagree, the camaro spindles give you a consistent and better camber gain when cornering. Besides the camaro spindle I have tall lower ball joints which raise the spindle putting the tie rod on a better angle and it come close to intersecting the meeting points of the upper and lower control arms. I have the car lowered so the lower control arm is parallel the ground

 

[LSCustoms]

well let me know when you have to change out the hubs....GM is well known for their problems with their hubs and I would never trust those hubs that are $44. You'll also notice that the prices I included were new parts and the brakes were close to $100 by themselves. If I chose to go after used parts and cheap pads it would have been under $200 but with the set up I have and the tires it's a very quick and controlled stop and it has saved me from having to repair the body. It's not just the size of the rotor and the number of pistons in the callipers and it's not all guess work...

http://www.jakelatham.com/radical/info/ ... tors.shtml

add another $100 for new nice parts

 

[pontiacgp]

You do also realise with hubs you need to keep the wheel centered or the hub will fail even quicker. With a spindle set up you can run wheels with any offset. It might be an old school set I have but it's been around since the last ice age and still going strong..

 

[LSCustoms]

You do also realise with hubs you need to keep the wheel centered or the hub will fail even quicker. With a spindle set up you can run wheels with any offset. It might be an old school set I have but it's been around since the last ice age and still going strong..

is has been done time and time again, over and over again and works fine... it would be the same as it is on the blazers they came off of and tons better than the stock gbody stuff... if I have to replace a hub in 3-5+ years than so be it and is easy for me to do... and the price is fine even at $100 per hub assembly (less than the cost of the frequent oils changes throughout the same time period)

if that bothers you, you can get a kit for around $130 (including new machined down stock rotor/hubs), do a rather simple modification to the stock spindle and add the c5/c6 stuff...

I liked the blazer stuff better than that, so that's what I went with....

the next car I build will more than likely have the ats spindles/hubs on it (when money will not be of much concern, because I will take longer time to build it)... those are a bad *ss set of spindles, for now i choose to upgrade the car keeping price and affordability in mind, to something much better than stock... as far as factory gm stuff, hard to beat a corvette, and this blazer set up lends itself to that for an amazing price and fitment

 

[megaladon6]

I disagree, the camaro spindles give you a consistent and better camber gain when cornering.

not really, it's about the same as the b-body. with the OTHER parts you need to make things work correctly...
and you do not have to center the wheel on hub bearings any more than on spindles.
i'm not saying that hubs are the greatest thing since sliced bread, but they are better than spindles WHEN BUILT RIGHT!
there's a reason that almost every single car company (if not every one) has gone that route.

 

[pontiacgp]

built right I agree....the junk they put on some of the gm products is ridiculous. The cops in a major city near here got rid of the Impalas they were using cause on jump over a curb the hub was toast and the car was in for a brake job once a month

 

[megaladon6]

oh i know, having done a few of them! but, like i said, the SKF heavy duty bearings are much better. for one, SKF is a really good company. and they are european, with actual standards, not the chinesium crap GM uses. also, being built for heavy duty helps. (and IIRC they are cheaper than dealer bearings)

 

[LSCustoms]

I disagree, the camaro spindles give you a consistent and better camber gain when cornering.

not really, it's about the same as the b-body. with the OTHER parts you need to make things work correctly...
and you do not have to center the wheel on hub bearings any more than on spindles.
i'm not saying that hubs are the greatest thing since sliced bread, but they are better than spindles WHEN BUILT RIGHT!
there's a reason that almost every single car company (if not every one) has gone that route.

I agree with you Mega and we cant compare apples to oranges or adding what ifs that don't really apply cause I don't intend to jump a curb and don't believe the hubs were designed for that purpose

as far as it being on a police car, most of the police cars offered by gm are not designed for Police Use (all the stuff that a Police Officer will put the car through), most department feel that it is cheaper to fix it after the fact than to get something that will work better in the beginning...

 

[jrm81bu]

I don't see why you would have to change the spindle for the 1LE upgrade. They both use the same inner bearing and wheel seal. The outer bearing is a different bearing, but it is the same inside diameter. So it would fit the spindle :idea: The only difference in the rotors, other than that, is the "hub" height:
1LE - 4.63"
82-88 GBody - 4.31"

I belive that is the problem. The spindle is just too short to fit the 1LE rotor on to.

edit-Also, i'm not sure that the f-body calipers will bolt to the g-body spindle either.

 

[pontiacgp]

f body calliper is longer than the G body