Will France Destroy The World Today?

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I AM NOT A PHYSICIST!!! That being said, France and Switzerland are bringing online the world's largest particle accelerator today with plans to find the "God Particle" by smashing two neutrons together that would be moving at almost the speed of light. This is said to reproduce the conditions present at the "Big Bang". Now correct me of I am wrong ( and I hope I am), but was not the condition of the universe at the point of the Big Bang a Quantum Singularity according to theory? And, is not a Black Hole's bottom a Singularity as well? So, does the possibility not exist that a Black Hole could be created by this thing? Supposedly if it happens it would not have enough mass to live long, but what if the calculations are wrong and this thing gets really hungry? Smarter people than me say it is an outside possibility. I say, why are they not erring on the side of caution, given the consequences if they happen to be wrong? Supposedly were it to happen, it would take several years to destroy the Earth ( 2012 maybe?). The consequences to ALL the planet's inhabitants should they be wrong means to me they are being very selfish. They do not seem to care about the existence of those outside their community. I may not believe in Global Warming as being man-made, but should this happen the consequences are most assuredly more dire. Just something to think about. Have a nice day! 😀
 
85 Cutlass Brougham said:
I AM NOT A PHYSICIST!!! ...snip... Have a nice day! 😀
Well, I sorta kinda am I guess. 😀 BS in Engineering Physics, but that was a long long time ago. Basically there's a greater probability of you suddenly evaporating while reading this than anything that heinous happening in the LHC. Everything in quantum mechanics boils down to probabilities.

A "black hole" conjures up images of that god-awful Disney movie and everything being sucked into an ever growing bottomless pit. The "micro" BH's possibly produced by the LHC are nothing like that, basically they are called that because they are mathematically similar.... The earth isn't going to suddenly (or slowly for that matter) get sucked into the east of France 😀

Read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_hole

The Higgs Boson, which somehow got this "god particle" name, is at present something that's required by the math to "balance the equation." Like most of these (like neutrinos) the math has predicted them before they've actually been observed.

This whole debate reminds me of Admiral Blandy's words back in '46 when they started testing A-bombs at Bikini Atoll.

"The bomb will not start a chain-reaction in the water converting it all to gas and letting the ships on all the oceans drop down to the bottom. It will not blow out the bottom of the sea and let all the water run down the hole. It will not destroy gravity. I am not an atomic playboy, as one of my critics labeled me, exploding these bombs to satisfy my personal whim."

Similar fears were prevalent when the first H-bomb was tested, and we're all still here. :mrgreen:
 
Will France Destroy The World Today?

The French have yet to build a tank with a forward gear,so I think the odds of the French destroying the world with technology is pretty slim.
 
Furtrader said:
Will France Destroy The World Today?

The French have yet to build a tank wth a forward gear,so I think the odds of the French destroying the world with technology is pretty slim.

Oh, c'mon now... in the last two hundred years the French have beaten....umm... nevermind...

At least it is nice to see that they don't give up, no matter how many times they have lost. They even try to build cars sometimes too.
 
Someday, somebody, somewhere is going to push some random button and then 1/2 of us are going to see a big boom and the other 1/2 of us aren't going to wake-up ...

On a long enough time line the survival rate for anything drops to zero.

^ Fight Club hahaha 😛
 
The thing I find scary is that scientists sometimes are like little children with a new toy, seeing everything it can do until it breaks. Watching the documentary "Trinity and Beyond" made me realize this. The things they were doing with no thought to the possible downside during the heyday of atmospheric nuclear testing is scary. I found myself laughing through it because it was like watching a bunch of 7 year olds torturing a worm with a magnifying glass and seeing how bad they could burn it.
 
The same thing happens in the upper atmosphere every day at much higher energies than CERN can produce with the LHC. I think it's pretty darn incredible what we are now capable of. Picturing something traveling 11,000 revolutions a second in a 17 mile loop just blows my mind but really, nothing will happen. The same quack (hes not even a physicist) who is trying to stop this collider wanted to block the one at Brookhaven, NY but it turned out fine didn't it? Just ignore the doomsayers and try to admire the accomplishments these scientists have made.
 
also, at the moment of the big bang, there was no singularity. the singularity only existed BEFORE the big bang--it's called time zero IIRC. at time 1, which is something like 1 trillionth of a second later (the point they're trying to recreate) massive amounts of base enrgy particles "exploded" out. where not even talking about photons, but more on the level of quarks.
 
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