Covid 19 flare up then subsides.
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Dr. Fauci said in January that in the History of respiratory pandemics, EVERY outbreak was the result of symptomatic spread, which means the masks really do nothing for ANYBODY unless the wearer is sick & coughing or sick & singing/yelling (and masks have ALWAYS has done NET ZERO to protect the wearer).
"The Mob" made Fauci walk back this statement on June 10, because "there may be some evidence Asymptomatic spread". They called it "presymptomatic spread".
"There may be some evidence" does not = Proof, but we must error on the side of caution, So masks have now become some magical virus barrier. In the sun, out at a beach NOBODY should be wearing a mask. The sun kills the virus. The mask could keep the sun from killing the virus.
The real Problem with respiratory diseases is sick people should isolate (and they do not) so if that one jerk who always comes to work sick wears a mask, maybe other might not get sick.
Everyone over 65 should avoid Covid, but Obesity and Diabetes are the two Covid Killers of young people. We knew this in early February, but the PC Fear of "fat shaming" kept the media from telling these people they had a 10X higher risk of getting really sick & dying. If I was fat, I would rather have someone tell me my risks of dying than not telling me because it might hurt my feelings. Its borderline criminal.
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Just to add, we've had to wear a mask 9 hours/day at work since July and my throat is scratchy and raw as heck, which makes it WAYYYYYY more susceptible for both Viral and bacterial infection. The Mask thing has to stop.
Like "the goggles", they do nothing.
Like "the goggles", they do nothing.
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One more thing. This is France. France gets a bad rap because they are snooty and speak French, but they get most of their electricity from Nuclear and they did invent/innovate a lot of stuff before they embraced socialism and much of the talent fled.
First wave was community spread and the deaths were old/obese/diabetic. "Second wave" is bored young people taking to the streets and more testing. Mandatory masks have no effect on either cases or deaths.
First wave was community spread and the deaths were old/obese/diabetic. "Second wave" is bored young people taking to the streets and more testing. Mandatory masks have no effect on either cases or deaths.
The sheeple that think grandma's old tablecloth will prevent transmission of a highly contagious disease will never believe you though....
If social distancing had a state example that typified the benefits of social distancing, that state would be South Dakota. Did not get there this year. Us/Canada border was closed then; is closed now. Both sides carry automatics weapons and all that is missing is the razor wire and spotlights. Dogs and Jersey barriers we already have.
As for vaccinations, don't hold your breath. The most advanced prototype is not predicted to be generally available until next year sometime, maybe. If You want a scenario for how Covid 19 will affect the world, then go all the way back to 1919-1920 for the last truly global pandemic, aka "Spanish Flu" Then you had two options, survive or die. Today and now those options have not changed. Contract a full up case of Covid and you either survive or die. There have been other iterations or "flus" such as swine flu and duck flu and Sars, all of which are still floating around. Then there is Ebola, which has not been eradicated but still hangs on, and don't forget HIV.
And what is the take-away from everything that has been learned and compiled:
No clear idea on when the disease first appeared, and don't suggest Mar 11th, that was the day the pandemic was declared. There have been suggestions that Covid had been identified as for back as late 2019.
No clear idea on how long it will persist.
No clear idea on how many waves of it will come and go.
No clear idea if current measures are working and will continue to work or if the disease will mutate like most viruses tend to do which would make current therapies and potential vaccines ineffective. Remember that yearly normal flu vaccines are based on the various types of flus that appeared the year previous. They are not specific to a certain version of "normal" flu, they are a hybrid meant to trigger as broad an immune system response as possible. Also be aware that both versions, the yearly "its flu season" version, and Covid-19 will be running simultaneously and there is no way to between a mild version of one and a mild version of the other.
Finally, appreciate that the battle is not between Big Pharmacy and Big Politics, the battle is Global with the agenda being driven by whoever stands to make the greatest profit. Big medicine probably has the clearest perspective on the significance and dangers attached to Covid in all its various iterations, and yes there is more than one version of this around but their attempts to cleanly deliver that message have been skewed time and again by by persistent and methodical media efforts that focus on sensationalism while ignoring or deprecating the science.
What worries me is the upcoming federal election and the potential for it being "delayed" or "deferred": ostensibly in order to protect voters from being exposed to the virus while placing their votes but with a darker agenda that could see delay after delay attached to the process, just like the repeated refusals to open the border to non-essential commerce activities by either side, all in the name of safety.
AT one point above it was mentioned that Covid could linger to the point where it becomes mundane, sort of like wallpaper in the house called life; always around but so common that it has reached the point of being seldom noticed or addressed.
Moving on.
Nick
As for vaccinations, don't hold your breath. The most advanced prototype is not predicted to be generally available until next year sometime, maybe. If You want a scenario for how Covid 19 will affect the world, then go all the way back to 1919-1920 for the last truly global pandemic, aka "Spanish Flu" Then you had two options, survive or die. Today and now those options have not changed. Contract a full up case of Covid and you either survive or die. There have been other iterations or "flus" such as swine flu and duck flu and Sars, all of which are still floating around. Then there is Ebola, which has not been eradicated but still hangs on, and don't forget HIV.
And what is the take-away from everything that has been learned and compiled:
No clear idea on when the disease first appeared, and don't suggest Mar 11th, that was the day the pandemic was declared. There have been suggestions that Covid had been identified as for back as late 2019.
No clear idea on how long it will persist.
No clear idea on how many waves of it will come and go.
No clear idea if current measures are working and will continue to work or if the disease will mutate like most viruses tend to do which would make current therapies and potential vaccines ineffective. Remember that yearly normal flu vaccines are based on the various types of flus that appeared the year previous. They are not specific to a certain version of "normal" flu, they are a hybrid meant to trigger as broad an immune system response as possible. Also be aware that both versions, the yearly "its flu season" version, and Covid-19 will be running simultaneously and there is no way to between a mild version of one and a mild version of the other.
Finally, appreciate that the battle is not between Big Pharmacy and Big Politics, the battle is Global with the agenda being driven by whoever stands to make the greatest profit. Big medicine probably has the clearest perspective on the significance and dangers attached to Covid in all its various iterations, and yes there is more than one version of this around but their attempts to cleanly deliver that message have been skewed time and again by by persistent and methodical media efforts that focus on sensationalism while ignoring or deprecating the science.
What worries me is the upcoming federal election and the potential for it being "delayed" or "deferred": ostensibly in order to protect voters from being exposed to the virus while placing their votes but with a darker agenda that could see delay after delay attached to the process, just like the repeated refusals to open the border to non-essential commerce activities by either side, all in the name of safety.
AT one point above it was mentioned that Covid could linger to the point where it becomes mundane, sort of like wallpaper in the house called life; always around but so common that it has reached the point of being seldom noticed or addressed.
Moving on.
Nick
I'll bring up a topic that this covers & do it from a social observation with what I've seen in the past few years up to & after this mess started, all neutral from that "P" word that causes issues. Socializing in general has be something that was declining from what I've noticed with a lot of the population going from a social interaction with others to using digital media to do so even if that person is just one foot away from them. Walking among the public as a electric meter ready in the more populated areas I have seen very few people speaking to each other but using some sort of a digital means to communicate either text type messaging or video. My teen & early 20's nephews & niece would never say a word at any family gatherings but they would text each other to include their parents to ask them for something that would take less time to say "hey dad/mom, can I..." Then you have those living on FB, ordering everything they need/want from an online service to avoid going somewhere. Hell, even McDonalds is set up where you have limited comunications ir involvement with those who work there. But not to ramble on with every possible example I'll get to the theory I have which is we have in the most part become an anti-social/anti-physical interaction society before any ideas of a lock down. Now you have had (& may have again) the lock downs & now have to deal with limited interactions, spaced distance when around others, buisness's that can't open or have limited operations with restrictions on how many people can be there, a form of prohibition with bars with when & how to serve alcohol, how & the number of those that can gather together & a encourged way to behave to deal with this virus. Now from these you have those who are normally socially distant fight to be able to not be socially distant, what to be around people when they normally avoid contact & digially comunicate, expect to be able to go to any brick & mortor buisness when every they want instead of the usall buying by app or website & get into large crowds instead of showing off that they are still alive on FB. Then you have the fighting among people not for the social issues that are making the news but on what/how/why to do/not to do. Both sides of the aisle are haveing this issue so you can rule out the "P" factor. This has more turned into an odd social experiment that a pandemic. Then with my point of view, I can careless of the human race in general. If there is a mass die off of it, my feelings won't be hurt as long as it's not affecting the few that I welcome into my world or have some sort of support to it (BTW not all of those I'm related to are in my world.) I take this from my life experiances across this blue & green rock so it's not to offend. It comes down to why fight being told not to do this or go here, why you should do this & this is what we need to try to see if it works. I am physically tired of this like everyone else but is society could collectively pull there heads out of their arse's & work together to get through this we might just make it a little easier to deal with but what do I know, I'm just a random idiot venting.
I don't claim to know sh*t from shinola but today on the news the anchor woman said "a new study shows that the majority of covid cases are asymptomatic."
So... you're saying we all have this highly contagious disease but it has no symptoms so most of us would have no way of knowing we have said disease unless someone tells us we have it?
I was born on a Tuesday but it wasn't last Tuesday...
So... you're saying we all have this highly contagious disease but it has no symptoms so most of us would have no way of knowing we have said disease unless someone tells us we have it?
I was born on a Tuesday but it wasn't last Tuesday...
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