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[DRIVEN]

I use the drill bit trick myself. Awesome work as usual.

 

[Tony1968]

Meh, don’t sweat it. No one knows it all, and the purpose of a forum is to be able to ask questions and (hopefully) get answers.

There are a couple hard and fast rules in bodywork that must be followed, but when it comes to other things there’s sometimes room for interpretation and personal preference. I’m an old school guy myself, and prefer doing things the old school way.

I was always taught that body filler always goes on bare metal, no exceptions. However I know that it’s become perfectly acceptable to apply it over PROPERLY sanded and prepped epoxy primer as well. The reason I personally don’t do this is I’ve had instances in the past where the epoxy doesn’t have a good “bite” into the substrate. Whether this was because of old product or some other reason is another matter.

If you were to apply filler over epoxy that had issues like that, your filler would lift along with the epoxy. Probably the reason for being taught to only apply it to bare metal. With the price of materials and the labor involved, to me it’s an easy rule to abide by. And with it comes the piece of mind that particular scenario is not a possibility. It’s always gonna stay exactly where you put it.

I would never take anything away or discount anyone that wants to put it over top of epoxy, it’s just not how I prefer to do it. One of those aforementioned personal preference things.

Some of it depends also on your location and ambient weather conditions. Guys in extremely humid or coastal areas pretty much need to get anything bare metal protected as soon as possible or the thing will flash rust within the hour. I don’t have those conditions to contend with thankfully, but some might. And if they’re comfortable with applying filler over properly prepped epoxy, then that’s what they need to do for where they are.

OK... You have no idea how much I appreciate your time... Can you recommend a book or something (youtube or CD I can purchase) that goes over everything that you would consider the correct way to go about my bodywork? It's coming up to that point very soon. I'm in NW Indiana and it gets darn humid in summer and spring but I'm hoping I can do most bodywork this fall and winter so humidity should be at lower levels but I am not sure ! Too many variables that confuse the HECK outta me.... Thanks again

 

[Rktpwrd]

OK... You have no idea how much I appreciate your time... Can you recommend a book or something (youtube or CD I can purchase) that goes over everything that you would consider the correct way to go about my bodywork? It's coming up to that point very soon. I'm in NW Indiana and it gets darn humid in summer and spring but I'm hoping I can do most bodywork this fall and winter so humidity should be at lower levels but I am not sure ! Too many variables that confuse the HECK outta me.... Thanks again

No problem.
I would do some looking around on the ‘ol interwebs and try and find some reputable sources to do some reading on. The reputable ones will be easy to spot, stay away from “Jim Bob painted his car with a roller under the old Elm tree” type ones.

I’ve personally used this particular site to get answers to things I was unsure of in the past, there appears to be many knowledgeable folks on there:

Learn how to paint your own car!

The #1 site on the Internet to discuss and learn about autobody and paint. If you want to learn how to paint your own car, this is the place!

www.autobody101.com

If you’re truly serious about learning a new skill set, also consider taking a night course from your local vocational school or college on it. They’ll start you off with the basics and you’ll learn a ton. This is actually what I did back in my late teens before deciding to pursue a career in it for a while.

Some of the other guys here might chime in with other suggestions for you, hope this helps.

 

[Injectedcutty]

I use the drill bit trick myself. Awesome work as usual. View attachment 123668

X3 or whatever. I have a small pack of 1/8" dowel pins that I've used to locate the core support, decklid, old steel hood, etc. Saves soooo much time.

 

[Rktpwrd]

sh*t’s about to get real here again.

 

[pagrunt]

 

[Turbolq4]

How many times do you suppose you have masked that car off?🤔

 

[fleming442]

How many times do you suppose you have masked that car off?🤔

I think he's used more masking material on one car than I've used in my entire life, and I've painted 2 cars!.

 

[Texas82GP]

How many times do you suppose you have masked that car off?🤔

ONE MILLION TIMES...

 

[Rktpwrd]

How many times do you suppose you have masked that car off?🤔

More than I care to remember.

And remember, I absolutely despise masking. Think of the biggest, most awkward Christmas present ever, and imagine trying to wrap it with heavy duty paper that won’t cooperate no matter what you do. But the areas of the present that you can’t reach and have to be taped are dirty and the tape won’t stick to it.

That’s masking a car for ya.

I think he's used more masking material on one car than I've used in my entire life, and I've painted 2 cars!.

Meh, papers cheap.
Tape not so much, but what are ya gonna do? Can’t have one without the other.
It is what it is.