Steering gear box - best replacement?
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My research indicates the same. 10:1 is better for vehicles used more on the autocross/track than the street.
I had a Lares box in my Summit shopping cart when I noticed the Quick Ratio was 10:1 vs 12.7:1 so I started looking up info/input.
Think the ratio will be an issue driving on the street ? I never knew there was a difference. Figured since it said sport suspension it was equal to a Monte SS box.
This is the question I've asked from guys that do Track & Autocross events. They feel it will be 'twitchy' for the street as a small amount of steering input will yield aggressive turning degree vs normal passenger cars. That's desired on the track; not so much in certain situations on the streets/road. As with anything, it's something you can get used to but I still wonder & have concern about what the reactive rate would be in an 'Uh-Oh' event on the road.
While I was going to say 'F-It' & go w/the 10:1, I'm now gravitating to the 12.7 box first. It will be better vs the stock/OEM ratio. If I feel I need more, I can get more aggressive w/the 10:1 & sell the 12.7 box.
I've noticed with my 12.7 box that it feels more like the newer cars of today. Anyone driving a newer car that jumps into my car wouldn't really notice a difference (not that anyone is gonna drive my car) but all of us old school guys notice how much less the steering wheel needs to turn with the faster box. I didn't want a quicker box like a 10:1 because I didn't want to sneeze and end up on the curb however, I agree, you would get used to it. I think I went from about 3 3/4 turns to about 2 1/2 turns lock to lock. The thing that matters the most to me is, I like it.
We'll deal with the steering gear box leak issue on my uncle's new Malibu project. The previous owner mentioned it may need a replacement. We'll just finish installing the suspension from 4Wheelonline onto the truck before we can clear the garage and take her in.
After some terrible experiences with the remanufactured steering boxes I started looking into brand new options. The one suggested to me was the Delphi 600 box. This is a a modern design that uses a similar valve assembly as used on rack and pinion steering assemblies. GM used in on the GMT 800 half ton 4 wheel drives. Chrysler used it on certain Jeep models. The oem installed units are not able to be retrofitted to the G body but there are aftermarket companies that provide bolt on units. Borgeson, Turn One and Lee Power Steering all offer bolt on units with a variety of ratios. The Borgeson one most closely duplicates the factory fast ratio but with better road feel. It's also a brand new box. There is no way I would pay Carhex $450 for a remanifactured box. https://www.ebay.com/itm/3345143701...d=link&campid=5335822911&toolid=20001&mkevt=1
I have the Borgeson box and their collapsible steering shaft on my Regal and couldn't be happier with it.
Do you have the part number? I want to replace the original box with a Borgeson. TIA
I replaced mine with a rebuilt unit. It wasn't any better than the one I took off.
I finally bit the bullet and bought a new Borgeson unit. Couldn't be happier. It totally changed the feel of the car.
I bought it from Summit Racing. Part # 800130 Pretty much the same price everywhere $467.00 Not cheap but you'll only buy once.
I finally bit the bullet and bought a new Borgeson unit. Couldn't be happier. It totally changed the feel of the car.
I bought it from Summit Racing. Part # 800130 Pretty much the same price everywhere $467.00 Not cheap but you'll only buy once.
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