What did you do to your G-Body today 2024

Got my NOS back of hood trim last night. It is beautiful! Had some residue from it's 40 year old bag it was in...a tad of polish and boom. Mint! Pulled off the old "crimped one". Cleaned up the paint under the old trim and the wife helped me pop the new one on. Man looks a million times better! One question on it. It doesn't sit 100% flush where the old did on the driver side. Just over 1/16" off..and shows some paint imperfections. It wants to keep springing out just a tad. I DO NOT want to risk bending it. What would be a good fix here fellas?

New one.

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Old compared to new.

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Small gap due to "springing"of new piece.
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With pressure pulling it down.
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Would butyl rubber on the back of the trim be acceptable/ offer a strong enough bond to hold it in place?
 
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Been puttering on the car last couple nights after work and got the radio wiring harness installed and tested. First time I’ve heard music inside that car since I parked it in 1991. Very sad thought but it was really cool sitting in it tonight with AC/DC playing!

I have to shore up the mounting points for the radio as this car saw many stereos over the time I daily drove it and it’s been abused. Got one side set and glued tonight, I’ll do the other side Sunday, work and company tomorrow.

Not sure I mentioned it but the car is a paperweight at the moment as I broke the shift shaft on the TH700R4. I was going to change the simple Camaro bracket for one that could control the links to the steering column so I’ll have my safety features back and working. I tried a few GM dealerships and they say GM has them on Backorder. I stopped at a transmission shop on my lunch break and he couldn’t find that shift shaft through any of his suppliers. But he called me later on in the day and found a used one and is having it shipped over. Should be here Wednesday latest as it’s coming from upstate NY. 🤞

Of course, a used one popped up on eBay but I never found it with a search of the GM part number.

I am going to keep looking for a new one to have on the shelf just in case. The transmission guy said he hasn’t rebuilt a TH700R4 in years but did do a TH200R4 a few months back for a guy with a HotRod.

Maybe I should just pony up and buy the -Jericho 5 speed manual I’ve been wanting….
 
I have/run a 700R4 myself and during a little digging into the history of the unit learned that they were rebranded as the 4L60 by GM sometime prior to the turn of the millenium. It didn't change the internals all that much apparently so if that shift shaft is hard to come by as a 700 part then maybe run the search for it under the 4L designation and see what pops up.

Nick
 
I have/run a 700R4 myself and during a little digging into the history of the unit learned that they were rebranded as the 4L60 by GM sometime prior to the turn of the millenium. It didn't change the internals all that much apparently so if that shift shaft is hard to come by as a 700 part then maybe run the search for it under the 4L designation and see what pops up.

Nick
I had heard that the 4L60 was an improved TH700R4 and the catalog at the transmission shop had both units listed on the same parts chapter. Funny he still has old school paper catalogs! The company was Wittrans, WIT whatever it takes transmission:

 
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I had heard that the 4L60 was an improved TH700R4 and the catalog at the transmission shop had both units listed on the same parts chapter. Funny he still has old school paper catalogs! The company was Wittrans, WIT whatever it takes transmission:

WIT is good people. I've done business with them before.
 
So I managed to into the shop early for a change. The last thing I had done on Friday after work was to test hang the complete rocker panel assembly, both inner and outer, to get a feel for how they wanted to go together and what might be needed to make that marriage go easier. Turned out that guesstimate of how much more I needed to remove from the width of the inner panel turned out to be accurate to within a 1/16th. I had laid 1/2 inch masking tape as a guideline for the cut that I had planned to make but wasn's sure if I needed to include the width of the airsaw blade as part of the overall width in question or if it ought to be a plus; i.e. 1/2 inch all in, vs 1/2 inch plus the blade or 9/16ths all in, +/-.

The cut I took was the plus cut and the second test fit laid the panel in exactly where I wanted it to fall. Just for insurance I laid in a couple of self drilling PK screws to guarantee it would return back to exactly where it had to go come time to bark up the MIG and have at 'er. So now it is on the jack stands with a fresh coat of color shot and drying. (Hopefully, the humidity is brutal again)

While the smell of paint fumes was fresh, I also shot the inside of the outer rocker with a coat of the anti-rust primer. I think, at this point I will also shoot a top coat of the sem-gloss just for additional protection. Thing for tomorrow.

My micro belt sander once again proved its value by being able to get into the cracks and crannies in the quarter panel pocket and clean up a lot of the tacks and seams that had been left undressed simply because they were on the inside and most of the original repairs had been laid in from the outside.; no access to the cavity at the time so some unfinished business that can finally be addressed.

Came out of the shop for most of the afternoon but went back in after 6 just to just down and drain the compressor and water trap. The secondary water trap on the belt sander was loaded with condensation so it will have to be torn down and dried out again. Both the main line water trap and the tank drain c*ck discharged water when they were opened; left them open to breathe until I need to reboot the compressor again. I am leery of leaving air in the tank just because any moisture in the air can come out of suspension and end up sitting on the tank bottom. I have no desire to have a ringside seat to a compressor tank failure and emptying out the tank takes the stress off the system.


Nick
 
Drove it to my buddies house to help him remove the tonneau cover of this thing he bought after he got sideswiped by an old bat.

His old 95 6.5. Frame tweaked, axle mounts and leaf springs broken. Hasn't decided what he'll do with it yet.
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And his new 97 he bought a few days later.
It was done by a conversion shop in Michigan in the late 90s.
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And it's Show Time.............................


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This is the new outer rocker panel that will end up being burned in when all the rest of the work is done. The sectioned out piece of the B pillar is just clamped in place as a place marker to check for accuracy of location. The panel actually sort of self-locates itself.



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And a quick look inside the cavity behind the B pillar kind of explains the "self locating" aspect. The back end of the rocker physically butts up tight against the inner wheel house. In the factory installation, the wheel house would have been drilled or punched with holes that would line up with the tabs found on the end of the rocker panel. I don't personally plan on being that chummy with how the factory did it.



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And the front end of things. The exposed sheet metal you see is the transition area from the passenger floor board to the passenger toe board. When the new floor panel went in, how many years ago was that now???, i was using my 225 Lincoln set up for flux core because all the work was being done outside which made gas an expensive waste to try to use. And yeah, the quality of the welds did suffer; the control over the heat and speed with the flux core just wasn't there and finding uninjured sheet metal that would take the heat long enough to make the fusion needed became a battle of frustration. Now with all the outer side exposed, I can go back and revisit the site to correct some of the nastier compromises and finish what couldn't be got at way back then.


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Detail shots for the work needed to graft the toe board and floor board back to their attaching panel that is actually part of the body mount. The factory used as many as three or four layers of metal to form the pocket which holds the threaded diamond plate into which the body mount bolt is screwed. This is a midway shot as I still had to extend the repair back from the sill and re-attach it to the original shelf. The drop or bend you see in the shot is the shoulder to which the inner rocker panel will attach at this end of the opening.



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This shot skips ahead a few steps but shows the finished work on the toe board side wall as well as the inner section of the A pillar box that has been welded in and then primered. This piece had not been included when the pillar was first rebuilt as I had had no donor from which to harvest it at the time. I had had to make do with what was there and move on. This time I went back and returned that piece back to where it belonged. Having the donor A pillar section really helped as I could take it apart and harvest the pieces that I needed.



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While it can still be seen, this is the frame rail, post descaling, rust removal, sanding and chipping, and multiple coats of Rust Mort. The repeated applicaton of the Mort proved to be necessary as it made a great revealer of missed or marginal areas when it dried. The little "blossoms" small dark blotches, irritated me so they got further attention from an air driven wire wheel, then the 60 gr on the 4.5, and even some tight corner love from the micro belt sander. It will never be pretty but then that was never the goal. What I wanted and got was a smooth surface that would take paint, shed moisture, and not be pockmarked with nurds and crusticles that could trap crud.



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This is a full up test install of both the inner and outer rocker panels with both the front and rear pillar transitions clamped into place as well. Minus all the clamps this will be pretty close to what the pre paint product will look like. It was also an opportunity for me to set the proper relationship between the inner and outer rocker panels as the outer, being a stamping, is pretty much bent and shaped the way it needs to be while the inner is still a blank of sorts meaning that it still has to be adjusted and trimmed to fit the way I want it to.



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A detail shot for how the lower section of the A pillar sits down on the outer rocker panel and transfers weight and stress down and back into the structure. Not so visible but there is the end cap that is part of this component and which covers the end of the outer panel to deter the intrusion of road crap and other crud and corruption. For those who would opine, "but with the front fender in place you never see it!" it is not about seeing and being seen, it is about the S*** that gets flung up and back by the front wheel and ends up going splat against that surface. Having the rocker panel closed off keeps that crud from penetrating into the rocker and eating it away from the inside out.



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If you have never been introduced before, I'd like you to meet the inner rocker panel, only this time in anti-rust primer. At a few inches over 5 feet long, it matches the length of the outer rocker panel and lands, front and back, directly behind the outer panel to cap it off completely from the inside. This shot was taken before it received its color coat as it was easier to shoot the top coat with it off the vehicle. It is also before I clipped it for width; in its final current version it is narrower so that it can be grafted onto the short shoulder that is what remains of the original inner panel. To get that attachment point it was necessary to cut away the old panel which wasn't much of a chore; it was that far gone and just about half past dead as it was. Most of work attached to this project is just getting to the point where you can attach new metal and be comfortable about it. Southern cars tend not to be this nasty as road salt is an alien life form south of the line. Up here in the land of the Frozen Chosen, the stuff gets flung around like rice and confetti at a wedding and without relentless attention can turn a car into a rusticle in as little as five years. This care did do its share of time in the salt puddles before it came into my hands so the battle to eradicate the cancer has been vicious and ongoing for many years.

More Pictures??? Yeah, maybe, perhaps, later................................... 😴



Nick
 

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