Whelp..... progress? Hellcat engine to cease production after 2023 model.

[Clone TIE Pilot]

The one thing I haven't seen mentioned is that if "they" are going to force into electric vehicles "they" will make fuel and owning a gas powered vehicle so expensive with regulations and penalties that you will almost have no choice.

Oh "they" will use regulations and penalties to force people to switch to EVs, then manual to select self driving to full time self driving.

Another issue not brought up yet is the fact you don't own the software that makes computer controlled cars run. You only have a end user agreement similar to PCs. Even if you pay for an EV in full you still don't own the software that runs it. Since the softwarec is not your property, its illegal to tamper with someone else's property. Moreover, newer automotive software is loaded with much more anti tampering safeguards like DRM.

 

[Rktpwrd]

 

[ck80]

Oh "they" will use regulations and penalties to force people to switch to EVs, then manual to select self driving to full time self driving.

Another issue not brought up yet is the fact you don't own the software that makes computer controlled cars run. You only have a end user agreement similar to PCs. Even if you pay for an EV in full you still don't own the software that runs it. Since the softwarec is not your property, its illegal to tamper with someone else's property. Moreover, newer automotive software is loaded with much more anti tampering safeguards like DRM.

With self driving someone is, under current laws, responsible for manslaughter/murder.

Either you program a computer to run off the road at high speed when a jaywalker/child/deer/etc comes into the road. Killing some motorists/occupants, OR, you program the vehicle to drive into the obstruction, killing the obstruction. But the computer won't be smart enough to know what the moving biological is in all cases, or have time to sufficiently act.

With a human driver, we use our judgment. But when you premeditatively program that decision in, it's different isn't it?

 

[69hurstolds]

But when you premeditatively program that decision in, it's different isn't it?

Not to the "obstruction" it isn't. Deer in the headlights look will still be the same.

I'm sure that the bean-counters and lawyers are already advising car companies what the deal is or might be. They may be idiots sometimes, but they definitely are penalty-risk aversive all the time.

 

[motorheadmike]

With self driving someone is, under current laws, responsible for manslaughter/murder.

Either you program a computer to run off the road at high speed when a jaywalker/child/deer/etc comes into the road. Killing some motorists/occupants, OR, you program the vehicle to drive into the obstruction, killing the obstruction. But the computer won't be smart enough to know what the moving biological is in all cases, or have time to sufficiently act.

With a human driver, we use our judgment. But when you premeditatively program that decision in, it's different isn't it?

It would be much safer for everyone and better for the environment if you just learned to code, stayed home in your pod, ate your government supplied bug bars, and enjoyed your fresh air ration.

 

[olds307 and 403]

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Old news, where have you been the last two years😱. I wish my Wife and I could have hid in our pods the last two years, she might not be fighting for her life. We both had more work than we wanted. The cost of going "green" is going to be crippling and do squat in the end. I can't imagine what hydro cost for a year will be in 5 years, even if you don't own an EV. We have some Solar here but I think it is pretty useless in Winter, which is a long time here.

 

[Northernregal]

Old news, where have you been the last two years😱. I wish my Wife and I could have hid in our pods the last two years, she might not be fighting for her life. We both had more work than we wanted. The cost of going "green" is going to be crippling and do squat in the end. I can't imagine what hydro cost for a year will be in 5 years, even if you don't own an EV. We have some Solar here but I think it is pretty useless in Winter, which is a long time here.

Cost of power has has only doubled since the drama teacher took power. How much worse could it get.

 

[pagrunt]

The solution, nobody/nothing will be left to complain & the planet will fix itself with out any human issues.

Then the alien visitors can have all those Hellcats &LS's for themselves.

 

[motorheadmike]

Old news, where have you been the last two years😱. I wish my Wife and I could have hid in our pods the last two years, she might not be fighting for her life. We both had more work than we wanted. The cost of going "green" is going to be crippling and do squat in the end. I can't imagine what hydro cost for a year will be in 5 years, even if you don't own an EV. We have some Solar here but I think it is pretty useless in Winter, which is a long time here.

I am going to invest in this:

Saskatchewan geothermal at DuckDuckGo

DuckDuckGo. Privacy, Simplified.

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It's like fracking for warmth.

 

[olds307 and 403]

I am going to invest in this:

Saskatchewan geothermal at DuckDuckGo

DuckDuckGo. Privacy, Simplified.

duckduckgo.com

It's like fracking for warmth.

Geothermal is great for Summer, basically eliminates A/C. Winter, supplement with wood or electric is needed for a our -40, for weeks at time. My Uncle has had it for years. We used to burn Wood, it was great burning furniture grade Ash and Oak. My In Laws let us cut it down for free, we even sold some. It did lead to my Wife hitting her Uncle with a log when he grabbed my Dad. Ah Memories.