Apparently my car is to heavy for American Racing rims

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383_GrandPrix

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Well I got an email from American Racing directly and they say that my car is too heavy for the rims...sooooooo that sucks! (n)(n)
What? I find that hard to believe. I think that's news to a lot of muscle car guys, I've seen many pictures of A/F/G/B body muscle cars with the same or similar rims. I would expect a company like American Racing to know who their market is and build a product to meet the needs of those who will buy their products.
 
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82GrandPrix

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What? I find that hard to believe. I think that's news to a lot of muscle car guys, I've seen many pictures of A/F/G/B body muscle cars with the same or similar rims. I would expect a company like American Racing to know who their market is and build a product to meet the needs of those who will buy their products.
Exactly! I saw dozens of pictures of cars on google that weigh a ton and they frequently have those rims on them. All of them old school muscle cars. What are these rims built for then? A damn civic??

I might go with these instead. They are a little more money but have a much higher load rating and look almost the same. Ridler 675

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pontiacgp

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do they think you are mounting the car on one wheel?....On their website each of those wheels is rated at 1580 lbs. I have the 17" Torque Thrust II on my GP which are also rated at 1580 lbs and I drive my car sideways sometimes so I'm not too gentle on it. The wheels have not broken yet

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82GrandPrix

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do they think you are mounting the car on one wheel?....On their website each of those wheels is rated at 1580 lbs. I have the 17" Torque Thrust II on my GP which are also rated at 1580 lbs and I drive my car sideways sometimes so I'm not too gentle on it. The wheels have not broken yet

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I don' t get it either, but I'm ain't gonna argue with them. Nice car btw
 
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pontiacgp

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I don' t get it either, but I'm ain't gonna argue with them. Nice car btw

I would argue with them.....but then I argue with anybody


The markings that are required by DOT are as follows;

  1. Wheel Load – this is the maximum load that the wheel is designed to carry. The wheel load is determined by taking 50% of the heaviest axle rating of the vehicle (GAWR – gross axle weight rating). Example; if your heaviest axle weight rating is 3000 lbs then your wheel load requirement would be 1500 lbs.

for sh*ts and giggles lets say the front of the G body is 2,000 so you would need rims rated at 1,000...The AR is 1,580
 
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fleming442

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This is the biggest crock of crap I've heard in a minute. I don't even like the wheels, but I'd be arguing the hell out of it. Get an email address and bombard it with pictures of A & G body cars wearing the wheels.
 
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81cutlass

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My bet is the tech guy is new and doesn't know you have to divide by two.

You are fine, buy them and be cool :)
 
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Gonzo1970

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Something is fishy here.


The 15x7 for your car, specifically, is VN5155761. Load 1580. Around $140 per.

Wheel Load is calculated by taking 50% of the heaviest axle (Front - Engine weight, Duh?)

My '86 weighs in at 3300 and a few pounds.. So, lets say the engine/trans/steering components/etc/etc/etc is a cool 1000lb of that (Its not, its more around 700. Add 300 for easier calculation.. And. I'd say a ballpark of Front equaling 1k more than rear acceptable... but.. thats just me.)

2300 left - divided by 2 axles - 1150.
Plus 1000 for the front - 2150
2150 divided by 2 wheels taking that load - 1075 per wheel.


Now, if you use their website and put in your 1982 GP, and let it show you "the wheels for your car": You find something interesting.

16" with a load rating of 1400 is perfectly acceptable....but the ones you asked for at 1580 are not? Oooooh, wait, the 16" Rims are $227 each... huh... imagine that



A 1987 Cadillac Brougham De'Elegance - which is the only example I can readily find at my fingertips - has a Front GAWR of 2537, requiring 1600 Load Rims.

I GUARANTEE you the Caddy weighs more than your GP as its over 5k Lb. I Know my 86 weighs 3300 (plus a few pounds) because that's what the scale I put it on said, and your 82 Should be just like my 86 weight-wise.


They just have numbers wonky somewhere, and they're too stupid to verify the validity of what they're reading on a screen.

Honestly, yeah, I would tell them to piss off and give you the 15" or you will go elsewhere with your business.

Summitracing.com - put in your car and click Wheels - the lowest I see is 1400.

-Gonz
 
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Local Hero

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What? I find that hard to believe. I think that's news to a lot of muscle car guys, I've seen many pictures of A/F/G/B body muscle cars with the same or similar rims. I would expect a company like American Racing to know who their market is and build a product to meet the needs of those who will buy their products.

Yep, I have them on my 68 Cougar which I gotta believe is even heavier than any G-Body. Been on there 17 years. Only issue I ever had was when a brake caliper started dragging and the extra heat caused the screws in the center cap to back out and I almost lost it. But I stopped when I heard the clicking noise of it dangling by only a few threads on the only screw that was hanging on for deal life.

Hardly the rim's fault.
 
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