F'n Gas Prices

[breeaad]

These are reasons why I think Stanley Meyer's technology is so important today. Good news is that many people are working on it independently. Also, there have been many claims that it works......unfortunately everyone that has made those claims has fallen off the internet.....

Look into it at least. There's someone out there that will be able to figure this technology out and get it to the public. If you don't know about it, Google and Youtube will teach you all about his inventions and patents. This is real stuff, he could not have gotten patents without proving it worked.

I actually studied this in school (Mechanical Engineering), and the cold truth is it is BS. There is no such thing as perpetual motion. There are ALWAYS energy losses. Yes, water does contain energy that can be used. But it is far less efficient then conventional fuels, and more difficult to extract the energy from. Stanley Meyer's "inventions" will in no way ever be used in the future as way to power anything. It doesn't work. And no, you in no way have to prove an invention works to receive a patent. That is simply not true.

From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Me ... _fuel_cell
In 1996, inventor Stanley Meyer was sued by two investors to whom he had sold dealerships, offering the right to do business in Water Fuel Cell technology. His car was due to be examined by the expert witness Michael Laughton, Professor of Electrical Engineering at Queen Mary, University of London and Fellow of the Royal Academy of Engineering. However, Meyer made what Professor Laughton considered a "lame excuse" on the days of examination and did not allow the test to proceed.[3] According to Meyer the technology was patent pending and under investigation by the patent office, the Department of Energy and the military.[14] His "water fuel cell" was later examined by three expert witnesses in court who found that there "was nothing revolutionary about the cell at all and that it was simply using conventional electrolysis". The court found Meyer guilty of "gross and egregious fraud" and ordered him to repay the two investors their $25,000.

 

[larryo454]

I don't even have to read the last 4 pages to know what's up. Gas in Ohio=2.99 a gallon. Guess what? They do it cuz they can. Holidays= let's jack up the price of gas because more people are going to be driving more. It's America fellas. Clean and simple. Not to sound unpatriotic, I have nothing against America... I just hate people in general. Brotherhood, patriotism, whatever you believe in and whatever gives you a warm and fuzzy feeling inside can all be thrown out the window when the guy standing next to has a chance to screw you over to make a buck. Think I'm wrong? Here's an example: I was watching all the coverage on 9/11 when it happened, I was sitting at work. Thought to myself later that evening "Ya know, maybe I should go get some gas in case we have some issues with the country we get our gas from..." Low and behold, everybody in my area had the same exact thought I did, whispers of "gas shortage" left and right, cars backed up down the streets at EVERY gas station around and the &%&*$#!!!! gas stations selling gas at anywhere from $9.00 to $16.00 a GALLON!!!
So yeah... my point being: If they can F you... they're gonna F you.

LOLOLOL 2.99 a gallon SRY i would love to only pay 2.99 for a gallon.Up in Canada in Newfoundland we 4.80 a gallon or a 1.20 a liter at the pump.Along with our oil fields in upper Canada like suncor,shell,petro Canada,ect thay say thay can make a sell the oil for $13 a barrel and still make a profit off it sh*t me.

 

[pappa_wolf]

over here we`re paying 8$ a gallon, or 14 kroner pr liter. :evil: :evil: :evil:
so please, could someone email me a few gallons?? :wink:

merry christmas.

 

[HurstOlds]

his technology cannot work.....if you think that because he got a patent it has to work then look at this patent...

http://gizmodo.com/136753/patent-696097 ... -spaceship

He was not granted his patents until he demonstrated it's operability under Section 101. IE...he had to prove to them that it worked.

He also show's his first WFC in operation on the news story that's on YouTube "It Runs on Water"

 

[HurstOlds]

I actually studied this in school (Mechanical Engineering), and the cold truth is it is BS. There is no such thing as perpetual motion. There are ALWAYS energy losses. Yes, water does contain energy that can be used. But it is far less efficient then conventional fuels, and more difficult to extract the energy from. Stanley Meyer's "inventions" will in no way ever be used in the future as way to power anything. It doesn't work. And no, you in no way have to prove an invention works to receive a patent. That is simply not true.

How long ago was it that you studied this? I recommend you look into it a little more, along with all the duplications that are currently working. By your words, does that make a car a perpetual motion machine? Cars consume gas, WFC consumes water....where's the perpetual motion?

Here's what happened at his hearing:
http://waterfuelcell.org/moreinfo.html

He was screwed during his trial. You can read all about the actual account above. None of the disinformation matters, there are already around a dozen people that have replicated his works.

I recommend checking out his videos of himself showing/explaining everything. You won't be able to find all the videos for free easily. waterfuelcell.org sells them, but you can download via a torrent if you know what that is. His videos show you the process and help understand more than just reading patents. Just doing the math, there's definately enough energy in water for it to work. I guess you would have to be a chemist to understand that part. (I'm not, but I get the math)

 

[pontiacgp]

his technology cannot work.....if you think that because he got a patent it has to work then look at this patent...

http://gizmodo.com/136753/patent-696097 ... -spaceship

He was not granted his patents until he demonstrated it's operability under Section 101. IE...he had to prove to them that it worked.

He also show's his first WFC in operation on the news story that's on YouTube "It Runs on Water"

you must be relying on the Useful clause of 101

"The patent law specifies that the subject matter must be "useful." The term "useful" in this connection refers to the condition that the subject matter has a useful purpose and also includes operativeness; that is, a machine which will not operate to perform the intended purpose would not be called useful, and therefore would not be granted a patent. In most cases, the usefulness requirement is easily met in computer and electronic technologies."

this is subjective and open to interpretation....if he got the car to operate with a top speed of .05mph I guess he could claim it operates..

 

[G_Body_Enthusiast]

I guess you would have to be a chemist to understand that part.

http://periodictable.com/Stories/001.1/index.html

i once used salt water to run a small fan in the 7th grade. it's really simple stuff, anyone can replicate this. water can fuel a vehicle, it's not science fiction or made up bullshit. it's easy to understand really if you understand the principles behind it.

 

[Tuggy24g]

I pay 3.13 around me. Also if you all want to fix the problems we are having right now make sure you do not vote OBAMA in next election. Vote third party!!!

 

[megaladon6]

yes there is a a lot of power in water. just use the equation E=mc*2 for 1 gram of material, you have enough THEORETICAL energy to destroy the world. the hard truth is that the amount of electricity required to crack the molecule is more than that produced by recombining it. you can use a catalyst to help, but they still haven't even come close to having enough reliability and power. this goes with the 100mpg miracle carb, magnets on fuel lines, etc.

 

[HurstOlds]

That's true. There is enough energy in water for it to happen. Under normal electrolysis, you're right, it would take too much power to split the molecules. ie...you would put in more power than it would take to get out of burning the Hydrogen.

Stan Meyer's method uses resonance, not normal process. Restrict the amps, up the voltage, and the magic happens. Just like resonance in anything else. Kind of like pushing a kid on a swing. You don't push them the entire arc of the swing, that would take too much work. How about pushing when easiest, takes less work and you get huge gains.

Here's a YouTube video that best describes how this works (besides the swing example):
[youtube]W_7fgcnzhmw[/youtube]