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[69hurstolds]

Depends if you just want a piece of paper that looks like one, or, if you want one that's as close to what gm made in the day as you're likely to get.

If the former, there's places online to Google. If the latter, 69hurstolds is your friend, schmooze him, beg, plead, and grovel.

Not really am exaggeration. Lots of guys use the same template for many years ignoring the nuances gm changed from year to year. He's a bit of a perfectionist with a body of Olds knowledge and resource accumulation that is pretty much second to none in my book

Wow. I'm rather humbled. Thanks for the consideration.

For a fairly steep fee, if you want to pay it, winvoices.com does an excellent job with window stickers, and I believe for some of the door jamb stickers you can pay through the nose and get them from ecsvin.com but not sure if they use the actual "safety" adhesive that ruins the decal if you tried to remove it or just mimic that gray window like I do. Avery made those labels.

Hit me up on a PM. I already have all your options on hand. 🙂

When these places I mentioned above first started, I saw that they weren't that great, but they have vastly improved their game. I'm one not for paying a huge fee if I don't have to for inferior "good enough" stuff, so I designed and made my own based on factory originals. Even those "specialist" places like Dr. Decal doesn't have all the correct looking decals and stuff.

 

[464ChillerTech]

On your 83, you should have a body tag on the cowl underneath the driver wiper arm. It has some codes on it. While RPO codes remained pretty much the same year to year, (Ex: C60 was RPO for air conditioning on ALL G-bodies with manual A/C controls). There should be a two number code followed by an L for lower body and/or a U for upper body. If you have a vinyl top, you'd have a two number color code followed by a T. For example, 19L 19U and 11T. 19 would be black, and 11 would be white (IIRC). So your car would be black with a white vinyl top.

Take a readable picture of it and post it (start you a new thread please) and we can decode it for you.

Without the body tag, or other factory paperwork (for a fee, you can get an invoice copy with all the RPO options on YOUR car from GM Heritage Center, for instance), you'll have to inspect the car carefully to check for any color underneath the current color. Checking floorboard edges under the carpet for factory overspray, under the trunk seal lip area, etc. 84-up cars came with a SPID. 83 and earlier did not.

Thanks 69hurstolds. I wasn’t aware of the cowl tag so I’ll look for it tonight. There is the tag on the trunk lid but I didn’t check if the VINs are the same. The door jambs and everything under the hood has been painted, the trunk all coated with POR-15 or similar. I pulled the back seat bottom so we could shampoo it and I can see paint But my wife and I are in disagreement if its gray or green. I think it’s green.

 

[ck80]

Thanks 69hurstolds. I wasn’t aware of the cowl tag so I’ll look for it tonight. There is the tag on the trunk lid but I didn’t check if the VINs are the same. The door jambs and everything under the hood has been painted, the trunk all coated with POR-15 or similar. I pulled the back seat bottom so we could shampoo it and I can see paint But my wife and I are in disagreement if its gray or green. I think it’s green.

In addition to the cowl tag which is your best source of evidence, behind your door panels, behind the paper, the factory would've got a decent layer of paint on the outer surfaces of the inside surface of door shells unlike modern cars.

Very vew guys waste the paint on a color change painting there because of the added expense and overspray onto glass and mechanisms.

Why do I suggest peeking there? Well, lighting conditions make pics lie on the internet. Finding the original color is good. Deciding you like how it looks in person without wasting time and money on a test supply of the color is better.

 

[69hurstolds]

Thanks 69hurstolds. I wasn’t aware of the cowl tag so I’ll look for it tonight. There is the tag on the trunk lid but I didn’t check if the VINs are the same. The door jambs and everything under the hood has been painted, the trunk all coated with POR-15 or similar. I pulled the back seat bottom so we could shampoo it and I can see paint But my wife and I are in disagreement if its gray or green. I think it’s green.

Could be code 42 light grayfern metallic or 48 dark grayfern metallic? They had hints of greenish hue in it. I dunno though.

If it's an 83, it should not have an RPO SPID inside the trunklid. You could always get one made, and have a 1 of 1. 🙂