rear end gone?

[pontiacgp]

we would weld the spider gears together in an open carrier in our Cutlass circle track car that had the 602 crate in it and that rear never had a problem except the right axle would break from the stress of the cornering. Guys would also break an axle if the ended up in tjhe infield and hit the gas pedal too hard and the tire that hit the pavement with other wheel spinning on grass an axle would sheer most of the time.

 

[DRIVEN]

That's a good way to break any rear end.

 

[jrm81bu]

I think you forgot the pinion shaft is held in place with the pin. I shattered my pinion gears in an Auburn posi and the pinion shaft and c clips kept the axles in place. Once was enough for me..

I'm not talking about the pinion shaft going anywhere. I mean that as soon as the splined spider gear breaks, that axle will come out. there is nothing for the c-clip to ride against to keep it from coming out.

 

[DRIVEN]

The side gears? I follow what you're saying.

 

[pontiacgp]

🙂

 

[DRIVEN]

I think he's talking about a catastrophic failure where the gears shatter and disintegrate. While not a common/likely failure I can see how it's possible if all the planets were aligned against you. Stranger things have happened. It doesn't take a very large piece of displaced gear tooth to decimate a gear set. On the other hand, I've driven 30 miles on a rear end that was missing 1/3 of it's teeth.

 

[pontiacgp]

I was talking about the pinion gears, I just realized he means side gears. It's easier if the right part names are used

That rear end with the missing teeth must have be really noisy. Were you waiting for it to explode? I have a friend who was driving in the nationwide series and the idiot who put his rear end together screwed up and it got so hot the pant on the chassis around the rear end was on fire...

 

[DRIVEN]

:lol: It sounded horrible. I was helping my parents move 17 years ago and had a full load in the back of my '35 Ford pickup. Stopped at an intersection and when I went to pull away it jerked a couple times and I immediately knew what it was. I still had another 4-5 miles to go to unload so I figured I'd just keep going till I couldn't any more. Made it there, unloaded the stuff, turned around and limped it home. I stayed under 30mph and just took my time. I was pretty surprised when I got it apart. I expected maybe a tooth or 2 but not 1/3 of them. I wish I'd taken a picture. That truck was hard on axles too. I broke 3 or 4 of those too. Triple the original HP + 70 year old parts + young driver = short lifespan.

 

[jrm81bu]

I was talking about the pinion gears, I just realized he means side gears. It's easier if the right part names are used

Then tell me what the correct name is. I call them spiders and that was what I stated in my first response, I never mentioned the pinion gear or pinion gears.

Every one of the rears I broke had 1-4 of the spider/pinion gears broke.

 

[pontiacgp]

The two smaller gears that rotate on the pinion shaft are the pinion gears, the two larger gears that the axles pass through are called side gears. When referring to all the gears they are known as the spider gears.I thought you were talking about the pinion gears since they are smaller and most often are the ones that break so the side gears stay in place. Also with the cold rolled splines on the axles those splines usaually strip before the side gear breaks