Yeah, you may be right but my brain book says the 8.2 does not have the triangular protusions at 5&7 o'clock like the 7.5. This one does. But we do agree it is not an 8.5. Would they have put an 8.2 rear end behind a big block?
VIN tampering
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I don't think they even made a 7.5 back then that would fit an A-body
I'm very leery of the collector car market. The dealers all want way too much for the cars, and the car is only as good as the person who did the restoration on it. I don't know if and where corners were cut. And going with the theme of this thread, I don't know if the car actually is what the seller says it is. And I don't know about you guys, but personally I don't know if I'd be able to enjoy a car knowing I spent so much money on it. I'd just be thinking of how much the car cost me in the back of my head the whole time.
I guess that's kinda why I got into building cars. I'm too cheap to buy one that's already done, and even if I wasn't cheap, I don't trust other people's work.
I guess that's kinda why I got into building cars. I'm too cheap to buy one that's already done, and even if I wasn't cheap, I don't trust other people's work.
Devil's advocate: I'd rather spend $40K on a nice OLD car than a new pretty much anything. I do get a kick out of people I know who won't drive their old stuff because they have "so much" into it, yet drive a $50K pickup daily.
And this is why I don't own a $40K nice OLD car. Very few people I could trust that it was done right....or at least to my liking.
I'd take a pass without any documentation, too much money and the ebay ad reads like a bait and switch, at minimum everything is not as it seems.
1.This Olds is believed to be a 53k original mile car.
2.Under the hood sits a 1971 date code correct 455ci V8 tied to a 4-speed Muncie M22 manual transmission.
3.There has been added power brakes with disc in front, also upgraded power steering.
4.Pictures of the original car show a different color and a vinyl roof
5.Underchassis looks to be more rattle can than detailed.
RUN!
1.This Olds is believed to be a 53k original mile car.
2.Under the hood sits a 1971 date code correct 455ci V8 tied to a 4-speed Muncie M22 manual transmission.
3.There has been added power brakes with disc in front, also upgraded power steering.
4.Pictures of the original car show a different color and a vinyl roof
5.Underchassis looks to be more rattle can than detailed.
RUN!
So, you guys are basically telling me to walk away then . . . 
Actually, if it wasn't gray over silver, I wouldn't have given it a 2nd thought. I'm addicted to colors that are basically the absence of color? Go figure! But, it was also based on my intense curiosity for figuring out what it even "actually" is? I still think that VIN is counterfeit. So, on the one hand, they'd have to come down a bunch to get my money on this one being it is just a clone but, with so much deception involved, like others have pointed out, you can't help but worry what is truly under what appears to be a great paint job "here from the computer" anyway.
Actually, if it wasn't gray over silver, I wouldn't have given it a 2nd thought. I'm addicted to colors that are basically the absence of color? Go figure! But, it was also based on my intense curiosity for figuring out what it even "actually" is? I still think that VIN is counterfeit. So, on the one hand, they'd have to come down a bunch to get my money on this one being it is just a clone but, with so much deception involved, like others have pointed out, you can't help but worry what is truly under what appears to be a great paint job "here from the computer" anyway.
Personally, I don't think the VIN stamp itself looks fishy. They just weren't that perfect back then and quality varied by manufacturer. The Datsuns I've owned over the years look like they were applied by a toddler using a Harbor Freight punch set. If the seller could produce reasonable documentation, I'd be satisfied that it is what they say it is.
To me, the biggest disqualifier is that it's so far from original configuration. If I'm paying $50k for a "442" it damn well better be just as the factory built it. The only concessions I'd make is modern tires and battery. I want crappy brakes, restrictive exhaust, rust prone vinyl top, ugly paint color (as long as correct), and a giant pile of paperwork.
This car is just a clone in my book because even IF it's the real thing, it's too incorrect to be called collector quality. It's just a nice resto-mod Cutlass.
To me, the biggest disqualifier is that it's so far from original configuration. If I'm paying $50k for a "442" it damn well better be just as the factory built it. The only concessions I'd make is modern tires and battery. I want crappy brakes, restrictive exhaust, rust prone vinyl top, ugly paint color (as long as correct), and a giant pile of paperwork.
This car is just a clone in my book because even IF it's the real thing, it's too incorrect to be called collector quality. It's just a nice resto-mod Cutlass.
I truly don't comprehend spending massive amounts of cash for outdated automobiles that fully optioned don't even have the basic conveniences nor performance of more modern cars for the same, but usually less, sales price. Sentimental value is truly what drives these ridiculous prices. I could buy at least 3 '05-06 LS2/M6 GTOs for what they're asking for 1 '71 442 (possibly clone).
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