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While I hate to agree with this, I do, you are all in or out completely. From what you say I say sell it and move on, let the next guy slather the love and money on it.

Yup, and then buy someone else's completed project and run it into the ground, lather, rinse, repeat.
 
Have it stripped, repaired and painted, or sell it and cut your losses. You either want to keep this car long-term and it costs what it costs to rejuvenate it, or it is the impending money pit you describe and it is time to start over.

I mean you literally got 25% of your original purchase cost back thanks to those dogs... it owes you nothing - so you are either in or out.

Personally, I'd run. My Buick was at the same stage a fee years ago and I didn't see the value in absorbing the expense of bringing it back again. Sold it to some kid, and simplified my life.

While I hate to agree with this, I do, you are all in or out completely. From what you say I say sell it and move on, let the next guy slather the love and money on it.
Guys, I understand this position...However, how often do we come across virtually rust free cars. If time is money, just spending the time to find a rust free, mechanically sound car is costly. And this one runs and drives very well. I guess I am putting too much drama on my situation. If I weigh my wants vs needs, I just NEED some tires and maybe rear springs to keep the car going down the road. I WANT new rims, bushings,springs and paint. The paint damage is a bummer, but takes nothing away from the mechanical aspect of the car. I could do a 1500 dollar Maaco paint job and it would be miles better than the current paint.
As was said earlier, this car owes me nothing. I like to tinker. I'm still in it at this point. I can put a few bucks in it when available. I consider most of these issues as routine maintenance anyhow. All cars require that at some point.
Lol, I'm also a Ford guy, I have had a couple cobra torinos, and cougar eliminators and cyclone spoilers when I was younger. Those cars are a real money pit when looking to restore them. If I apply this logic to those cars, then yes, 100% agree.

I'm going to pull the rear springs and take those janky helper things out. I think this May be distorting the one spring and not allowing it to sit on the perch correctly...Not being as familiar with the Gbody platform as many here are. I freaked out on the open top springs that are on it. I have come to realize that some people actually use the fbody open springs. They are a way to trim for desired ride height. Maybe the fbody springs are not optimum, but they work. If it sits too low, I can get new springs, or just get a couple tall isolators/insulators.
 
No harm intended. It was just my interpretation of the situation and you desires. Absolutely fix the car and make it what you want - I look forward to the results.
 
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No harm intended. It was just my interpretation of the situation and you desires. Absolutely fix the car and make it what you want - I look forward to the results.
No harm done. I totally get it. You were being the logical voice of reason.
I do really like these Gbody cars. Being also a ford guy, I have never had the pleasure of the available parts and interchangeability these cars share. I get a thrill of knowing I could keep this car on the road for little cost and effort. And this thing draws attention as much as any other car I've had. And it's a wagon, go figure.
 
Jack, those were the first caps I had considered until I remembered these.
https://www.yearone.com/Product/1964-72-gto/an258
A little pricey I do think, but yea, those are the ones I would like to get eventually.

I was doing a little virtual tire shopping and realize I could get 16 and 17in tires for my current rims for way less than a set of 15in would cost.
 
In my eyes it's still a unique vehicle. If you don't really need to dump a lot of dough into it to keep it road worthy. then that gets my vote. How many Pontiac Lemans wagons do you see on the road these days....oh, maybe...0. If the car does not have any major rust issues, I'd keep it and make it a cool driver. I'm sure the car gets a lot thumbs up from other motorists.
 
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Jack, those were the first caps I had considered until I remembered these.
https://www.yearone.com/Product/1964-72-gto/an258
A little pricey I do think, but yea, those are the ones I would like to get eventually.

I was doing a little virtual tire shopping and realize I could get 16 and 17in tires for my current rims for way less than a set of 15in would cost.

Charlie,
I like those caps ,too. Those are the early Tempest caps, and I've also seen them on Catalinas, Bonnevilles, etc.. They can still be found on Ebay.
Putting new tires on your current rims might be more cost effective than doing the whole rim and tire change. I would first concentrate on making the car ride nice, keep it safe,reliable, and road worthy.
I don't think your current rims look bad at all. It's all a matter of preference.
 
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I'm going to pull the rear springs and take those janky helper things out. I think this May be distorting the one spring and not allowing it to sit on the perch correctly...Not being as familiar with the Gbody platform as many here are. I freaked out on the open top springs that are on it. I have come to realize that some people actually use the fbody open springs. They are a way to trim for desired ride height. Maybe the fbody springs are not optimum, but they work. If it sits too low, I can get new springs, or just get a couple tall isolators/insulators.

The moog 5659 and 5661 are Citation/Phoenix springs. They have a 4.300" inner diameter which is identical to the F body. I have the 5661 in my GP with the F body isolator. I have them cut so I had to use the Bilstein AK short shock so the spring stays in place if I have to jack up the car. The 5661 is shorter then a G body spring so I don't know if they stay in place without cutting them. I have a 67 rear end which has the spring perches sitting a few inches further forward than the perches on a G body rear but I have no problems with the rear springs staying in position. I removed the shock and sway bar to compress one side to see how the spring reacted before I terrorized the streets.
 
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Charlie,
I like those caps ,too. Those are the early Tempest caps, and I've also seen them on Catalinas, Bonnevilles, etc.. They can still be found on Ebay.
Putting new tires on your current rims might be more cost effective than doing the whole rim and tire change. I would first concentrate on making the car ride nice, keep it safe,reliable, and road worthy.
I don't think your current rims look bad at all. It's all a matter of preference.
I don't really mind the dated "look" of my current rims. I hate that they are polished aluminum. I can seriously spend several hours per rim keeping them clean. My hands can't put up with that much longer lol. They have gotten so bad at this point, I'll need to sand the pits out and polish them. I'm getting my buffing wheels out soon. UGH!!!
 
The moog 5659 and 5661 are Citation/Phoenix springs. They have a 4.300" inner diameter which is identical to the F body. I have the 5661 in my GP with the F body isolator. I have them cut so I had to use the Bilstein AK short shock so the spring stays in place if I have to jack up the car. The 5661 is shorter then a G body spring so I don't know if they stay in place without cutting them. I have a 67 rear end which has the spring perches sitting a few inches further forward than the perches on a G body rear but I have no problems with the rear springs staying in position. I removed the shock and sway bar to compress one side to see how the spring reacted before I terrorized the streets.
I saw you were using those springs. Didn't know they were open tops. I'll have to research the specs on them. Not that I'm trying to go road racing anytime soon, but I do have many curvy roads around me so a firm ride is good for me.
I was looking at another forum and some people suggest sliding heater hose over the top coil to keep them from rubbing the body and maybe helping them stick to the body without shifting around. Not too sure about all that, but that's what I read.
 
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