5+ years as a daily update

[pontiacgp]

the 5659 and 5661are pig tail on the bottom and open on top. The F body isolator is open in the center and it fits the bubble so it will not move

 

[oranGekrate]

the 5659 and 5661are pig tail on the bottom and open on top. The F body isolator is open in the center and it fits the bubble so it will not move

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I was looking at isolators and didn't come across those yet. They look great. Are they available in different thickness? I really like the idea of open top springs.

 

[pontiacgp]

The only come in one size. If you find them too thick you can trim off some material.

 

[oranGekrate]

pontiacgp Moog is very secretive on the spring specs. Any info you can provide? And I still can't find those exact iso's. wth.

 

[pontiacgp]

moog is secretive?...try getting the specs from Eibach


http://jeffd.50megs.com/Moog_Spring_Page.htm

 

[Ribbedroof]

Love that wagon. I would do what is necessary to retain it, although "bubbles" in paint never ends well. Like Jack said, Pontiac wagons are few and far between these days...had to talk myself out of buying one locally just last week (project).

That said, I'm a hypocrite, as I have considered the "buy someone else's finished car" route lately. Just too many projects/other responsibilities to finish anything... at least it seems that way lately. Another cold/rainy weekend wasted

 

[oranGekrate]

moog is secretive?...try getting the specs from Eibach


http://jeffd.50megs.com/Moog_Spring_Page.htm

Looking at some numbers, the spring force and spring rate are higher than the stock G with the exception to the 5391 spring force is higher...I think the 5391 is a wagon spring. Not sure on that. I'm thinking the 5661 would work fine on a wagon and still carry some modest weight when needed. I was looking at the UMI springs and they are 130 spring rate which is less than these, and linear opposed to progressive. Not real sure what all that means for a daily street cruiser. I need suspension learnin lol

 

[oranGekrate]

Love that wagon. I would do what is necessary to retain it, although "bubbles" in paint never ends well. Like Jack said, Pontiac wagons are few and far between these days...had to talk myself out of buying one locally just last week (project).

That said, I'm a hypocrite, as I have considered the "buy someone else's finished car" route lately. Just too many projects/other responsibilities to finish anything... at least it seems that way lately. Another cold/rainy weekend wasted

The bubbles have been on it the whole time I've had it, and never gotten any worse, and not in areas that you would normally find them. I'm pretty sure they are from poor paint prep.

 

[motorheadmike]

moog is secretive?...try getting the specs from Eibach


http://jeffd.50megs.com/Moog_Spring_Page.htm

Moog is plenty transparent. You can get all the specs from their searchable online catalogue... which I even turned into a sortable XLS file and posted it here.

Simply put you want 5662 or 5664 (700+lb/in) and 4th Gen F-body V6 front springs 220+lb/in) in the rear of a wagon. I have 5660s and cut 4th Gen F-body V8 fronts (~300lb/in); and it is too soft up front, and a bit too stiff in the rear.

 

[oranGekrate]

Moog is plenty transparent. You can get all the specs from their searchable online catalogue... which I even turned into a sortable XLS file and posted it here.

Simply put you want 5662 or 5664 (700+lb/in) and 4th Gen F-body V6 front springs 220+lb/in) in the rear of a wagon. I have 5660s and cut 4th Gen F-body V8 fronts (~300lb/in); and it is too soft up front, and a bit too stiff in the rear.

You have front springs in the rear?