BUILD THREAD 87 Cutlass EFI build: 9/13/23..NEW STUFF!

[Injectedcutty]

Again I missed about 4 pages of this and have no idea why.
Progress looks great! Pretty soon you will have nothing left to do but drive and wash her !!!

Thanks Tony, I've been chipping away pretty solid here lately. For me, when I see positive effects of progress it drives me to do more, and therefore the dash is almost done. Still hunting for the CF source so I can make more templates. I want to get the console in next along with working on the exhaust.

 

[Tony1968]

Thanks Tony, I've been chipping away pretty solid here lately. For me, when I see positive effects of progress it drives me to do more, and therefore the dash is almost done. Still hunting for the CF source so I can make more templates. I want to get the console in next along with working on the exhaust.

Awesome brother. I have such a long way to go but seeing your progress and others gives me hope.... but then I think..
What will I do when I'm done ?! Lol
I love doing the work!

 

[88AZSS]

My 87 CSM has NOTHING about the pigtail. There may be something on another schematic page, but I'm not going to sift through 400 pages of crap for it. On page 76-0 of the 87 Cutlass Supreme CSM, it shows the "convenience center", aka "chime module". 7 pin connections, but nothing on a pigtail. I didn't do a deep dive so I might have missed something but so far I haven't seen anything.

Could that pig tail tie into the factory anti theft/alarm system that GM had? I don’t recall which models got that option but I can see GM using the same buzzer whether the vehicle had that feature or not. Just a wild guess.

 

[Injectedcutty]

I've made some decent progress this evening again. First order of business was cleaning up the E brake handle. Freshened up the letters and installed.
Then I moved onto tucking the chime thingy up. I couldn't get to the mounting bosses, so I used some high tech poly locking strips to secure it. Then I got all the grounds on the passenger and driver sides attached..they'll(driver side) need to be moved but that's a problem for another day.
Next, I had to drill one hole to get the ALDL mounted properly, that's done. I brought the console up and sat it into place to make sure everything is lining up. So far so good. I'll need to tuck the switch wiring but that's no biggie.

Lastly, I hooked up the battery and turned the key over to check gauge function. Everything cycled as normal, stupid fuel gauge went wild (need new sender in cell). The damn clicker thing is clicking so I'll need to figure that out. All in all, super pumped, but dog tired from work and tinkering out here. Here is a short video...

 

[Northernregal]

Couple seats and you could go for a rip!

 

[Rktpwrd]

Well crap.
I was gonna do an update on my lowly door rehab, but then Mr. Injected-attention-hog-Cutty had to go and post a pic of his fancy-schmancy interior.

I think I’ll wait a year or two until the hubbub over his interior dies down a bit now before I update again.
😁

Gorgeous work buddy.

 

[69hurstolds]

I did find out something too. Not sure how accurate this is but the 87 and up chimes have a much better diaphragm/speaker thing for the chime. The 86 and below has a foam seal around the disc and if it crumbles (when it crumbles) the chime sounds like crap. So there's that. Apparently the 87-up doesn't need this foam.

I think the reason may be that the 87--88's had the blinker reminder chime? Not sure but they are definitely different.

You win the prize! On page 78-0 of the 87 Cutlass Supreme CSM, it lays out the convenience center purple and red wiring, although they're on opposite sides of the alarm chime, so it sort of fakes you out. Apparently, when you turn the turn signal on, it starts monitoring the VSS system (red wire) and the turn signal (purple wire). When it figures out the car has moved about 1/2 mile with the blinker still on....CHIME TIME!!! No voice that subtly tells you "Hey, dumb shiit, turn off your turn signal."

This was bothering the heck out of me but finally figured out that GM wasn't telling us the whole story on the convenience center page. Probably didn't have enough room.

If you don't have it, it won't see it, but I'm not sure if it's a standard feature thing or what. Doesn't say it's an optional feature, but who knows.

CASE SOLVED!

Edit: The purple and red wire are in the pigtail, but the plug that it supposedly goes into has a purple and brown wire. Go figure. The brown wire is part of the VSS to ECM circuit. So it's not an exact like for like plug in. Talk about stupid. So purple to purple, and red to brown.

 

[fleming442]

I used some high tech poly locking strips to secure it.

The damn clicker thing is clicking so I'll need to figure that out.

Was the turn signal on?

 

[Injectedcutty]

Was the turn signal on?

Nope, one of the LED flashers was clicking. I attached the turn signal one to the metal bracket in backside of dash, maybe it made it go silly.

 

[motorheadmike]

Last time I saw one of those chimes it was laying in the trash. Where I tossed it's annoying *ss.

But, got it: Olds put in an old people audio reminder in lieu of their failing vision. And they wonder why they could never shake the image that ultimately helped kill the brand? 😛