Help with new build** '73 350 Sbo in '87 Cutlass**

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loopaescobar said:
Just went and got another dizzy cap, going to rewire the plugs...lol...I got it now

Sweet, that's what I like to hear. And don't forget about getting cylinder 1 to TDC and seeing where the rotor points!
 
Still have to get #1 to tdc, got to go buy a spark plug socket.......i'm going to pick up new spark plugs, plug wires, and other odds and ends too
 
Hey guys tried it with another Cap on it, and i'm getting the same results, really need to get the TDC check going, i'm starting to think its timing now..... :doh:
 
loopaescobar said:
Hey intagration.....what do you think?

I don't think that picture's right (too many wires in a row going to the odd and even banks...1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2...notice, O-E-E-O-E-O-O-E...never more than two in a row to the same bank...) but more importantly, we don't know where cylinder 1 is on the distributor. You need to get cylinder 1 to TDC using the procedure I mentioned earlier. THEN, you need to see where the rotor is pointing. It could be pointing anywhere at this point. Then, you need to decide if this is ok, or if you want to change where it's pointing. In your case, I think it might be best to just leave it. So then, you figure out which terminal on the distributor cap is RIGHT ABOVE where the rotor is pointing. Connect the wire to cylinder number one. Go one terminal counter-clockwise, connect to cylinder number 8. Go one terminal counter-clockwise, connect to cylinder number 4, etc. etc.

You might want to use those firing order diagrams from before, and follow the ignition wire from each cylinder, and mark it at the distributor end. Go to cylinder number 1, driver's side front, follow that wire to the distributor, and put a 1 on the end of the wire with a sharpie. Same for all the others. Then, when you're all done, you can double check the distributor, and make double sure the order is correct. This is all simple stuff, but it's easy to get mixed up. Even pros have been known to mess up firing order, you need to keep paying attention until the motor is running smoothly, which it WILL be soon. 🙂

By the way, I would recommend NOT trying to crank or start it anymore, AT ALL, until we get all this wiring sorted out. No point, it's not going to start until it's correct, and it's been way off and isn't going to get sorted by luck, it's going to take some attention to detail. Still need to figure out why no fuel yet also!
 
Thanks intragration, this is honestly my first time doing any of this by myself, I've helped but not just me doing it...glad to know you have more faith in this thing starting than I do...lmao.....I see now what your talking about as far as firing order now...just needed it broken down to Dummy terms I guess.....heading out later to grab a couple of things for the car......hopefully we can get her going sometime today......btw.......do you guys wanna see whatyour helping to get running?
 
Absolutely, post some pics! I kind of figured out that you hadn't done this a whole lot, and on one hand, I was thinking it might be a problem, but honestly, you seem to have enough initiative and perseverance... You can GAIN knowledge and experience, you can't really gain initiative and perseverance.

Where are you located, by the way?
 
Yea, cars is something i'm very passionate about, but knowing so little, puts me at a stand still alot of times....and yea I try to learn everything I can when ire comes to cars, that's why i'm always on boards looking at posts from other peoples issues, and setting how they fixed it......im located in Eastman, Georgia.......which is located dead center of the state....but when it comes to doing anything with vehicles down here at these shops, the prices will give you a nose bleed..lmao
 

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I also have a 1985 Monte Carlo SS, that's the next project ill have going later this year.....
 

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Cool, nice looking cars. I almost bought a Cutlass just like that last year. The thing that I mentioned before, and it still stands, is you need to have a service manual, and I would recommend when you're doing this stuff, read over the sections on what you're working on, over and over again, until it sinks in. Sometimes it takes a little bit, but then the light goes on, and you get it, and it all makes sense. But you're doing good. The firing order and timing takes some getting used to when you've never dealt with it before, I think you're getting it now. To me, having it done versus doing it yourself, there's no comparison. The only way you'll get it done the way you want, to high standards and affordably, is to do it yourself. A shop is only going to do specifically what you ask them to do. You can put so much more attention to detail into it when you do it yourself, and you know it's done right, and you UNDERSTAND it too. And then when you go to a cruise night and you pop the hood, you can say "I did this". 😀
 
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