hooking up a g-body
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We will start with this line.
Gbodys don't have struts.
Are you trying to say put a airbag in RIGHT REAR COIL SPRING?
If that's what you are trying to say, yes, that's a old trick.
I have one in my car.
What's the tie in with steering?
Gbodys don't have struts.
Are you trying to say put a airbag in RIGHT REAR COIL SPRING?
If that's what you are trying to say, yes, that's a old trick.
I have one in my car.
What's the tie in with steering?
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hey guys!! after reading the link that shotgun sent, i think the next move is to put my lower bar up one notch and replace the shocks......my lovely wife said i could get christmas early 😀 see gave me a budget of 200.00
.... i did'nt know the wide choice that was available :shock: anyway i found some cheap lakewood at jegs...the shocks are not adjustable so i have to get the ones that are preset, now i need to find out what you think the best set up would use? i think the 70/30 front and 50/50 rear as the best all around?!.....
i got to know if taking the power steering pump off is one of those hard core racers tricks :wink: my goal is to have a real solid street car but theres no way i would take my powersteering off 😀 i've got over 300,000 miles of seat time and it would just not feel right to me ... jesse
hey guys!! after reading the link that shotgun sent, i think the next move is to put my lower bar up one notch and replace the shocks......my lovely wife said i could get christmas early 😀 see gave me a budget of 200.00
.... i did'nt know the wide choice that was available :shock: anyway i found some cheap lakewood at jegs...the shocks are not adjustable so i have to get the ones that are preset, now i need to find out what you think the best set up would use? i think the 70/30 front and 50/50 rear as the best all around?!.....i got to know if taking the power steering pump off is one of those hard core racers tricks :wink: my goal is to have a real solid street car but theres no way i would take my powersteering off 😀 i've got over 300,000 miles of seat time and it would just not feel right to me ... jesse
shotgun said:
Lol Jesus, yes the coil. Don't get too freaked out.
The reason I said this is I have a friend with an old El Camino, with the rear leaf spring truck suspension. He installed an airbag and adjusted it in such a way the car would launch completely straight after turning it to 5 grand on the tach. It allowed him to loosen the pulley on the power steering to gain a few extra hp, although it did sacrifice drivability. He just tightened the pulley before driving home. I haven't seen airbags on many cars at drag strips, is what I meant.
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custom442.....what i meant by pulling the left tire was off the ground 😀 the car is launching as straight as it ever had...my car used to go side ways on the street and now it's perfectely straight 😀 did you check out the vids? tell me what you think......jesse
custom442.....what i meant by pulling the left tire was off the ground 😀 the car is launching as straight as it ever had...my car used to go side ways on the street and now it's perfectely straight 😀 did you check out the vids? tell me what you think......jesse
you drag guys...(that doesn't sound right does it..lol)...are lucky from what I can tell....with a circle track car we have to set up each corner with stager, tire pressure camber, caster, toe....then there's front to back weigh bias, left to right weight bias and wedge and ride height, switching out the rear end from one track to another.....and then the tin work after it gets wrecked...gotta luv it... 8)
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First, I gotta say the car is awesome. Second, I don't know much about drag suspension other than what I've seen or heard about. I do, however know how to make a car handle well on a skid pad.
From what I've seen they're about the opposite combos, I'm not sure about the little tips or tweaks. The drag car you're wanting to limit the roll angle. This would mean stiffer rear springs, but you can't go too crazy with this or it's not drivable. So, you compensate with an anti-roll bar. For a drag you're wanting a slower transition for the front end back to the road surface, so softer adjustable shocks.
What you're seeing on the front end is a problem with hard turning cars. It's fixed with a custom built (front) roll bar. I mean like 1.5" thick. For example, a 1.25" roll bar is 2.5x stiffer than a 1" one. So when the front picks up with the thicker bar, there is less front body roll. But I've been told drag cars aren't supposed to have thick front bars. A shorter swing arm length would make it stiffer yet, but then if it's too short you can have big problems with axle hop (this is most evident with rear bars).
I'll ask some guys who know a lot about this and let you know.
JESSE said:
First, I gotta say the car is awesome. Second, I don't know much about drag suspension other than what I've seen or heard about. I do, however know how to make a car handle well on a skid pad.
From what I've seen they're about the opposite combos, I'm not sure about the little tips or tweaks. The drag car you're wanting to limit the roll angle. This would mean stiffer rear springs, but you can't go too crazy with this or it's not drivable. So, you compensate with an anti-roll bar. For a drag you're wanting a slower transition for the front end back to the road surface, so softer adjustable shocks.
What you're seeing on the front end is a problem with hard turning cars. It's fixed with a custom built (front) roll bar. I mean like 1.5" thick. For example, a 1.25" roll bar is 2.5x stiffer than a 1" one. So when the front picks up with the thicker bar, there is less front body roll. But I've been told drag cars aren't supposed to have thick front bars. A shorter swing arm length would make it stiffer yet, but then if it's too short you can have big problems with axle hop (this is most evident with rear bars).
I'll ask some guys who know a lot about this and let you know.
or would a heavier spring on the rear corner that needs it work?...and it's easy and quick enough to change rear springs for street use..
pontiacgp said:
This is why I get it messed up. Because this could work for a drag car. But if you already have a spring around 700lbs/inch, and you're trying to turn the corner, a stiffer spring will cause understeer. I guess this could work for a drag car if it's not being driven on the street. The alternative would be an airbag so it could be adjusted for drag/street driving. I'll have some good info on this after I talk to guys at work tomorrow.
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