Heard some stories about Optima going downhill but if you look some of those posts online are from over 10 years ago, take it with a grain of salt like anything you hear. I had red top's in each of Monte's and while they are getting weak now they are from 2009/2010. I removed one this spring, or should say didn't put it back in, the other I think I can get more use out of and plan to buy another. With any car not driven regularly keeping the battery on a tender/maintenance charger is important.