Timing Chain Inspection and Replacement

[Tynan918]

Is the fan, water pump, and harmonic balancer the only things I remove to get to the timing chain cover ?

 

[g0thiac]

I can dig that, but these guys have been screwing around with cars for decades as well and it's worked for them on a number of occassions... I consider and research all advice given to me, and figure out which works best for me...

I'm more than likely on a budget at most times, so I can't always afford the things you guys mention. And when other reputable guys give me working and cheaper alternatives, that's what I go for...

Like scoti said, if it doesn't work, at least I can go back and do it again...

Give it a try, worst case scenario is you have an oil leak and have to redo it again haha.

 

[Tynan918]

Ok, now it's almost been 24 hrs since the rubber gasket was glued to the timing cover.

Should be completely dry within a few hours (4:30)...

Ok, I know I asked about using silicone/RTV to "glue/stick" the timing cover/engine block gasket for ease of installing the timing cover.

What kind of RTV should I use ?

I have automotive black oil resistant and automotive red hi temp ?

 

[scoti]

Black RTV gasket stuff should be fine for sealing the tin to the block. Make sure to put some @ the area mentioned internally across the spot welded lip on the lower bottom of the cover. A nice clean thin bead spread w/your finger tip does it. Just smooth it over basically. You dont need an excessive amount.

 

[mikester]

I switched over to Permatex Right Stuff. My buddy uses it in his shop and swears by it. I just recently used it for the timing cover and oil pan on the crate motor for my wagon.

 

[Tynan918]

Timing cover gasket is "glued" on with grey RTV that came with the timing cover gasket kit...

Waiting for it to dry for a couple of hours before I go and install the timing cover...

 

[mwjoyce78]

Timing cover gasket is "glued" on with grey RTV that came with the timing cover gasket kit...

Waiting for it to dry for a couple of hours before I go and install the timing cover...

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I would suggest double checking that. Based on what I’ve read on the sealer instructions the last time I put this stuff together you should assemble before it’s 100% cured. That way it flexes as you bolt on the cover and seals properly.

 

[g0thiac]

Ok, now it's almost been 24 hrs since the rubber gasket was glued to the timing cover.

Should be completely dry within a few hours (4:30)...

Ok, I know I asked about using silicone/RTV to "glue/stick" the timing cover/engine block gasket for ease of installing the timing cover.

What kind of RTV should I use ?

I have automotive black oil resistant and automotive red hi temp ?

Black or red, honestly anything high temp.

Timing cover gasket is "glued" on with grey RTV that came with the timing cover gasket kit...

Waiting for it to dry for a couple of hours before I go and install the timing cover...

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When do you plan on driving this now that you got the timing done here?

 

[scoti]

I would suggest double checking that. Based on what I’ve read on the sealer instructions the last time I put this stuff together you should assemble before it’s 100% cured. That way it flexes as you bolt on the cover and seals properly.

Agreed x2.

At the minimum, sealant on & where it needs to be w/the hardware snugged into place so the 'seal' area is compressed to a nice flat surface. Then come back in a bit & tighten things to completion.

Prob works either way but that's how I usually do mine.

 

[mikester]

Timing cover gasket is "glued" on with grey RTV that came with the timing cover gasket kit...

Waiting for it to dry for a couple of hours before I go and install the timing cover...

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I hate to be the guy that brings this up but are you 10000% sure the leak was coming from the cover ? Reason I ask is the manifold gasket on the right side of the picture looks a little wet.

 

[scoti]

I hate to be the guy that brings this up but are you 10000% sure the leak was coming from the cover ? Reason I ask is the manifold gasket on the right side of the picture looks a little wet.

One of the reasons I suggested cleaning the entire front of that motor. Lots of 'wet' coverage there. Things need to be cleaned up as much as possible to help ID trouble spots.