Timing Chain Inspection and Replacement
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Nope to both of those. From the looks of it in the initial pictures, they tried RTV in multiple layers to correct it w/o success.
You're going to need to extract the remainder of the bolt to properly secure that corner.
*EDIT* 'Gooping' layer on layer of silicone might (might) help initially. It might also just slow the leak.
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That might is a chance I'm going to have to take...
When I tried drilling for the extractor tool, the drill jumped straight up to the top every time...broke the smallest reverse bit I had getting caught at the top as it trailed itself there... I sized up and same thing, only it wasn't the breaking the bigger bits...
Indicating the PO attempted the same thing and screwed it up the chances of extracting it without extreme measures, therefore my best and "of ease" options are drilling out the hole and tapping it while the motor is in the car, or try to "goop" this ULTRA BLACK RTV to stop the leak... not like it's never worked for anyone else before...why not and its all I have to stand on right now ?
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FYI, most likely the bolt was broken by someone over tightening it not trying to take it out. It should come out pretty easy if you had the right tools to do the job.
My suggestion ? Im sure its not what you want to hear but try to save some money and buy a different type of daily driver that you wont have to work on. Not trying to insult you but some folks just arent meant to do this kinda stuff. Ive been a car guy for most of my life. My sons 32 and he doesnt know a thing about a car besides how to start it and drive it down the road. He never had an interest in learning. Instead of being out in my garage he wanted to play video games. Its okay though. We're all different.
Youve got 33 pages of info and advice. At this point I sincerely wish you luck and hope it doesnt leak. Just make sure you always check your oil.
My suggestion ? Im sure its not what you want to hear but try to save some money and buy a different type of daily driver that you wont have to work on. Not trying to insult you but some folks just arent meant to do this kinda stuff. Ive been a car guy for most of my life. My sons 32 and he doesnt know a thing about a car besides how to start it and drive it down the road. He never had an interest in learning. Instead of being out in my garage he wanted to play video games. Its okay though. We're all different.
Youve got 33 pages of info and advice. At this point I sincerely wish you luck and hope it doesnt leak. Just make sure you always check your oil.
I'm a car guy...I'm 32 as well... I also play video games... I'm also a paralegal... I do all kinds of things... I'm meant for the job, it's just most of you are too near sighted and pride filled to teach and understand those differences and alternative methods than what you have been taught...
Old dogs can learn new tricks too...do you know how many guys that said the timing cover wouldn't go on without lifting the motor and dropping the pan and swore by it ? Now, do you know how many other guys swear by never lifting the motor to install a timing cover ?
My point exactly...just saying, just because you never tried it doesn't mean it won't work...especially if it has for someone else...
That's just common sense...🤦🏾♂🎯💯
But yes, if it leaks, I shall check the oil routinely..
Man... you do a lot of insulting to people that are giving some really good advice. If you think most of the people on this forum are "too near sighted and pride filled to teach" Then shouldn't you find another place for help? Seems like it to me.
That's just me, though...but I'm not one to half-*ss a job, especially one this time and labor intensive. "Do it right, do it once" as my dad says.
That's just me, though...but I'm not one to half-*ss a job, especially one this time and labor intensive. "Do it right, do it once" as my dad says.
It would be good to advise me how to utilize with what I got...plenty of others have successfully done what I'm doing, and I'm insulting because I'm standing on that while others are telling me it can't be done, buy expensive shop equipment I can't afford, and lift and remove the motor to do it "correctly"...
Lol good advice though right ?
Another place for help ? Sure, I have about 5-6 other places for help, but then that would be considered running off...and for what ?
Because I'm confronting people who are degrading the ones looking for help and asking questions ??
I think thats what they want here, and I'm not giving them the satisfaction of that...
There is more than one way to skin a cat...is what my grandpa always told me...
If your plan is to eventually drill what's there out, tap it for larger threads & install a larger bolt then you can remove the remaining amount of the existing bolt; chase the existing threads w/a tap if they need it, & use another correct/new bolt. Using a larger drill bit will most likely only compound your issues. As soon as it hits the remaining portion of the bolt it's going to want to 'walk' where it wants. That's why the center-punch is so important for the process. Get the center-punch as close to center as possible. Drill into the existing bolt w/a small bit so a smaller easy-out removes the remaining current bolt w/o making worse.
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at this point if you're not gonna go backwards and address it I'd put the nozzle of the rtv in that hole and fill it till it comes out and spread it around.its worth a try and you've got nothing to lose.
I would tackle that bolt right now. You already have everything removed from the front end of the engine and it will save you the cost of new waterpump gaskets and having to rent tools again.
My game plan for this without clearly seeing the broken bolt would be as follows:
Leave the timing cover bolted on while trying to remove the broken bolt. it will help to keep shavings out of your oil pan.
Next I would check the timing cover alignment to that hole and drill just the cover if needed to remove the bolt.
From there its whatever works for getting that bolt out. Typically a fine tip punch followed by bigger punches to get that drill bit nice and centered.
My game plan for this without clearly seeing the broken bolt would be as follows:
Leave the timing cover bolted on while trying to remove the broken bolt. it will help to keep shavings out of your oil pan.
Next I would check the timing cover alignment to that hole and drill just the cover if needed to remove the bolt.
From there its whatever works for getting that bolt out. Typically a fine tip punch followed by bigger punches to get that drill bit nice and centered.
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