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RGBody87

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Good afternoon!
I have an 87 Monte Carlo SS and I have a 454 in it with a turbo 400. I’m considering putting in a manual steering rack but I don’t know what is involved and what else I would need parts wise to get this done. Anyone have any advice on it? Installed one? Stay power steering box?
Thanks!
 
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bracketchev1221

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I did my 70 with a universal rack, adjustable tie rod ends, rack mount clamp, and then made an intermediate shaft with universal joints to connect to the column. Unless you have a real need for it, I would go with a manual box first. I had a big oil pan and 2 1/4" headers in my car to need the rack.
 
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RGBody87

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Thank you!
 
UNGN

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If its a straight up drag car you can put a S10 manual steering gearbox in it (not a Rack). Manual Boxes are slow boxes so don't try to slalom or even change lanes fast.

With a big block and TH400 I doubt you'll notice the parasitic losses of a power steering pump on a time slip and parking/driving around would be much easier with a Power box... and if you did notice the pump was slowing you down, get a bigger pulley.
 
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84dragcutlass

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I agree with UNGN I had a manual box on my cutlass and youll miss the power steering before you leave the garage. On the road its okay but if trying to maneuver or park forget it. With all that extra weight of the 454 I don't think you would be able to turn the wheel if going parking lot speed
 
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Csilvy2000

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I use the manual steering box on two g-bodies. They both are strictly street cars. Neither of them give me any trouble. On the daily driver Supreme, I run a 215/70 r15 tire on front with a 7 inch wheel, on the El Camino, I run a 185/65 r15 with a 4 1/2 drag style wheel. As stated above the turn to turn is more, but as far as effort, not an issue. Both the engines turn a water pump and an alternator. I like simplicity. The El Camino received all new steering linkage parts and it feels good and tight. The Supreme is awaiting all new steering components.
 
Turbolq4

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I use the manual steering box on two g-bodies. They both are strictly street cars. Neither of them give me any trouble. On the daily driver Supreme, I run a 215/70 r15 tire on front with a 7 inch wheel, on the El Camino, I run a 185/65 r15 with a 4 1/2 drag style wheel. As stated above the turn to turn is more, but as far as effort, not an issue. Both the engines turn a water pump and an alternator. I like simplicity. The El Camino received all new steering linkage parts and it feels good and tight. The Supreme is awaiting all new steering components.
Simplicity be damned!!!

I want power steering!
 
pontiacgp

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For a street car I don't understand why anyone would want manual steering when on the highway there isn't much of a difference in the feel of the steering but with the manual steering you probably have a 15:1 ratio or maybe a 20:1. With a 15:1 ratio you have less of the chance of steering out of trouble and if you over correct good luck in trying to recover it. There is a reason circle track cars have power steering.
 
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Csilvy2000

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I can honestly say, 'I've never had a power steering leak issue.'
With a big block Chevy, an out of date 3 speed heavy duty tranny, and I'm sure a badass sounding exhaust, there is nothing practical about your car. Just 'man-up' on it and throw a manual box in there. It fits the vibe of your car.
 
pontiacgp

pontiacgp

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I can honestly say, 'I've never had a power steering leak issue.'
With a big block Chevy, an out of date 3 speed heavy duty tranny, and I'm sure a badass sounding exhaust, there is nothing practical about your car. Just 'man-up' on it and throw a manual box in there. It fits the vibe of your car.
if you need manual steering to prove you're a man then I'll have to wear a dress when driving my GP
 
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