Yeah, I think that's the next plan of attack. I don't see any funny tire wear but 145k on OEM shocks & struts means their time is probably here. Didn't come across my mind initially.
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Yeah, I think that's the next plan of attack. I don't see any funny tire wear but 145k on OEM shocks & struts means their time is probably here. Didn't come across my mind initially.
Had a Subaru Baja at one point. Used it like a truck. Told the dealer man “Hey that thing hauled a 1000 lbs pretty good “ he just about fell over. Said “Iy not designed for that!” My reply “Don’t make a truck then!” Next day loaded six 6x6x8’s in it🤣
That's exactly what and who they're for. I think they're fine for the people who want them.
So many half tons now are sold to people who don't necessarily need them. they need one of these. But now the full size order books are full of what people have been buying, short bed, crew cabs. But the selection of crew or even extended cab 8' bed trucks is few and far between. Most will be a stripped out base model contractor special - only available in white, thank you. 🙂
Meh, who am I to judge? I probably fall in that category of not needing[/b] a truck 98.634% of the time. But it sure is nice the few times that I have needed it.
Yup, some people get what they need for what they do, that concept is unheard of by others apparently. Not all of us need the 8ft bed diesel crew cab package with extra compensation to get our work done. 😉
If you need it for what you do well have at it and do your thing. If I was pulling construction equipment around on a regular basis I'd have a Cummins 6.7l in a one ton chassis, but I don't so I'll take what I have for what I do.
I've hauled more engines and transmissions and other various things in my little Honda Civic than some have done with trucks haha I'll move that stuff at 37mpg. 🙂
Anymore a stripped out base model will still have all the bells and whistles you want: electric windows/locks, cloth seats that don't bring about swamp *ss and aren't frigid in the winter, A/C, cruise, do you really need any more? They probably still have bluetooth too. I'll do a base model all day. . . or not. Even they're ridiculously priced anymore.
We have a 2016 Chevy 1500 here at work, classic white government fleet base model V6 6spd Auto. Electric everything, Cruise, Dual Climate Control. Manual Seats, touch screen with no CD Player. Keyless Entry too. Pretty nice driving truck.
LOL, yeah, but I was much less annoyed with the transmission that leaked all it's fluid in the back of my F150 than I was when one did it in the trunk of my Civic 🙂
The thing the unknowlegable don't realize is, these days the other weight ratings attached to a 1 ton 3500 ram or super Duty dictate full D.O.T. Compliance - even if not hauling a trailer at the time. So, you want to take a trip up the east coast? Better have your med card, log book, abide by driving hours, and stop in line at a bunch of weight stations.
Technically even some of the older 2500s run afoul of the mandatory stop provisions of, say, Pennsylvania these days sticks in my head. Here's what their rules were:
"The following vehicles must stop at weight/inspection stations: (1) agricultural vehicles; (2) passenger or specialty vehicles, whether single or in combination (towing a trailer) with GVWR of 10,000 lbs. or more; (3) commercial trucks with GVWR of 10,000 lbs. or more."
Now, some people just choose to ignore any and all rules to the peril of themselves and anyone around them like running double the legal GVWR of their truck. So be it, thay why we see all those 'latest in Darwin awards' newsworthy items.
But, lots of contractors use the same vehicle for work and personal use. Those are the guys getting squeezed.
It's also a chicken or egg question... do people buy the crap that's offered because it's what the masses wanted most, or, do they buy the crap offered because it's what was offered and available?
Do people only want 8 shades of grey, silver, black, and white with a token maroon/blue, or, did automakers choose to build that and it's what was on the lot so people picked the lease offensive of the available colors?
Do people only ever want black, and sometimes grey or tan interior? Or was that all that was offered?
Same points, different phrasing.
Technically even some of the older 2500s run afoul of the mandatory stop provisions of, say, Pennsylvania these days sticks in my head. Here's what their rules were:
"The following vehicles must stop at weight/inspection stations: (1) agricultural vehicles; (2) passenger or specialty vehicles, whether single or in combination (towing a trailer) with GVWR of 10,000 lbs. or more; (3) commercial trucks with GVWR of 10,000 lbs. or more."
Now, some people just choose to ignore any and all rules to the peril of themselves and anyone around them like running double the legal GVWR of their truck. So be it, thay why we see all those 'latest in Darwin awards' newsworthy items.
But, lots of contractors use the same vehicle for work and personal use. Those are the guys getting squeezed.
It's also a chicken or egg question... do people buy the crap that's offered because it's what the masses wanted most, or, do they buy the crap offered because it's what was offered and available?
Do people only want 8 shades of grey, silver, black, and white with a token maroon/blue, or, did automakers choose to build that and it's what was on the lot so people picked the lease offensive of the available colors?
Do people only ever want black, and sometimes grey or tan interior? Or was that all that was offered?
Same points, different phrasing.
Full size trucks & SUV's have replaced full size cars as luxury/aspirational/family vehicles.
People WANT large, comfortable, capable, good visibility, powerful vehicles that can tow trailers, haul families on road trips and have comfortable seats. Nobody makes comfortable cars anymore. Olds 98's, Ford LTD, Dodge Monaco's which fit 5 people comfortably and could tow a boat don't exist today, they have been replaced by Yukons, F150's & 4Runners.
Do people use their crew cab, ecoboost 2.7L, 5ft bed F150 like a 460 '77 F250 single cab 8ft bed pickup was used? No. Because that 2020 F150 2.7 crew cab isn't used to haul lumber, cultivator shovels or drywall, it's used how a full size car was prior to 1990. Yeah it hauls the occasional 'truck' thing like a bag of mulch, an end table or a boat, which a full size car could and is able of, but there isn't a full size car that can do those things anymore due to govt. regulations for safety (high belt lines making visibility poor and trunks small & engines small) MotorTrend and all those automotive journalists thinking every car has to be 'sporty' among many other things.
If you were not an automotive enthusiast and just wanted something that had a warranty and would do what you wanted in 1975 you bought a Delta 88, it did what you needed. The only thing that somewhat fills that non sporty, full size, reasonably priced gap today is a Chrysler 300, and you can't tow a boat to the lake with 3 kids and a weeks worth of clothes and groceries in the trunk, so you get a turbo 4 Silverado because it can.
Are modern pickups bad trucks? YES, it's because they aren't TRUCKS, they are full size family cars.
I get the hate for 5ft beds but nobody here is buying a brand new single cab 6.2 Sierra 1500 with an 8ft bed so your hate is unheard because cash influences auto mfg'ers not forum posts.
People WANT large, comfortable, capable, good visibility, powerful vehicles that can tow trailers, haul families on road trips and have comfortable seats. Nobody makes comfortable cars anymore. Olds 98's, Ford LTD, Dodge Monaco's which fit 5 people comfortably and could tow a boat don't exist today, they have been replaced by Yukons, F150's & 4Runners.
Do people use their crew cab, ecoboost 2.7L, 5ft bed F150 like a 460 '77 F250 single cab 8ft bed pickup was used? No. Because that 2020 F150 2.7 crew cab isn't used to haul lumber, cultivator shovels or drywall, it's used how a full size car was prior to 1990. Yeah it hauls the occasional 'truck' thing like a bag of mulch, an end table or a boat, which a full size car could and is able of, but there isn't a full size car that can do those things anymore due to govt. regulations for safety (high belt lines making visibility poor and trunks small & engines small) MotorTrend and all those automotive journalists thinking every car has to be 'sporty' among many other things.
If you were not an automotive enthusiast and just wanted something that had a warranty and would do what you wanted in 1975 you bought a Delta 88, it did what you needed. The only thing that somewhat fills that non sporty, full size, reasonably priced gap today is a Chrysler 300, and you can't tow a boat to the lake with 3 kids and a weeks worth of clothes and groceries in the trunk, so you get a turbo 4 Silverado because it can.
Are modern pickups bad trucks? YES, it's because they aren't TRUCKS, they are full size family cars.
I get the hate for 5ft beds but nobody here is buying a brand new single cab 6.2 Sierra 1500 with an 8ft bed so your hate is unheard because cash influences auto mfg'ers not forum posts.
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